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I don't understand how an uncontested free throw should shed any light on a players potential to hit shots with a defender on him. Especially when said player has a terribly slow release and his mechanics go to shit when there's even a shadow in his viscinity .

PorkChop wrote:I don't understand how an uncontested free throw should shed any light on a players potential to hit shots with a defender on him. Especially when said player has a terribly slow release and his mechanics go to shit when there's even a shadow in his viscinity .

Ricky Rubio makes 99% of his uncontested layups in practice. There's no reason to think he can't improve on that 35% number when the games begin this fall...

Rubio catching up on the reps he has missed this summer... ;-)

https://instagram.com/p/7mK92vxd4H/

60WinTim wrote:Rubio catching up on the reps he has missed this summer... ;-)

https://instagram.com/p/7mK92vxd4H/

Absolutely indisputable evidence that Ricky has resolved all of his shooting issues!

SWEET!!! He is a good shooter from the arch. Needs to shoot those in games and not the corner threes.

longstrangetrip wrote:

60WinTim wrote:Rubio catching up on the reps he has missed this summer... ;-)

https://instagram.com/p/7mK92vxd4H/

Absolutely indisputable evidence that Ricky has resolved all of his shooting issues!

Heh. But that's definitely the shot that he should be working on. Nevermind the pull-up 18 footers when opposing guards go underneath the screen. Nevermind the poor finishing. I just don't see how guys at his age can really improve shooting while on the move (pull-ups and finishing). But they CAN improve catch-and-shoot 3's. We've seen it with others over the years and even Rubio has had a few respectable years from beyond the arc both in Europe and in the NBA. If he can hit 3's and Free's, I can live with the poor finishing and pull-up jumpers.

Q12543 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

60WinTim wrote:Rubio catching up on the reps he has missed this summer... ;-)

https://instagram.com/p/7mK92vxd4H/

Absolutely indisputable evidence that Ricky has resolved all of his shooting issues!

Heh. But that's definitely the shot that he should be working on. Nevermind the pull-up 18 footers when opposing guards go underneath the screen. Nevermind the poor finishing. I just don't see how guys at his age can really improve shooting while on the move (pull-ups and finishing). But they CAN improve catch-and-shoot 3's. We've seen it with others over the years and even Rubio has had a few respectable years from beyond the arc both in Europe and in the NBA. If he can hit 3's and Free's, I can live with the poor finishing and pull-up jumpers.

I agree, but he is shooting a 3-point jumper in the clip. A set shot isn't as pretty, but it's more like a free throw (which Ricky excels at) and I would rather Ricky continue to take the open 3-point set shot that he is actually pretty adept at. Terrific if he can also develop the long jumper, but I'm not confident he can, and would rather have him perfect something he has already demonstrated has some potential.

longstrangetrip wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

60WinTim wrote:Rubio catching up on the reps he has missed this summer... ;-)

https://instagram.com/p/7mK92vxd4H/

Absolutely indisputable evidence that Ricky has resolved all of his shooting issues!

Heh. But that's definitely the shot that he should be working on. Nevermind the pull-up 18 footers when opposing guards go underneath the screen. Nevermind the poor finishing. I just don't see how guys at his age can really improve shooting while on the move (pull-ups and finishing). But they CAN improve catch-and-shoot 3's. We've seen it with others over the years and even Rubio has had a few respectable years from beyond the arc both in Europe and in the NBA. If he can hit 3's and Free's, I can live with the poor finishing and pull-up jumpers.

I agree, but he is shooting a 3-point jumper in the clip. A set shot isn't as pretty, but it's more like a free throw (which Ricky excels at) and I would rather Ricky continue to take the open 3-point set shot that he is actually pretty adept at. Terrific if he can also develop the long jumper, but I'm not confident he can, and would rather have him perfect something he has already demonstrated has some potential.

IMO it's a little too early to settle for him being basically old Jason Kidd. :)

Q12543 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

60WinTim wrote:Rubio catching up on the reps he has missed this summer... ;-)

https://instagram.com/p/7mK92vxd4H/

Absolutely indisputable evidence that Ricky has resolved all of his shooting issues!

Heh. But that's definitely the shot that he should be working on. Nevermind the pull-up 18 footers when opposing guards go underneath the screen. Nevermind the poor finishing. I just don't see how guys at his age can really improve shooting while on the move (pull-ups and finishing). But they CAN improve catch-and-shoot 3's. We've seen it with others over the years and even Rubio has had a few respectable years from beyond the arc both in Europe and in the NBA. If he can hit 3's and Free's, I can live with the poor finishing and pull-up jumpers.

Developing a set shot doesn't help at all when you're the primary ball handler. That's the reason he has to learn to finish at the rim or hit the 18 ft jumper. When you take the ball out of his hands he brings no positives to an offense so while a set shot would help in that regard, his value still would mostly come from having the ball in his hands setting up other guys. If he doesn't improve his finishing or shot off the dribble, he'll need to go eventually because that just won't pass in the playoffs. In today's game, your primary ball handler has to be able to score or your offense gets shut down come playoff time.

khans2k5 wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

60WinTim wrote:Rubio catching up on the reps he has missed this summer... ;-)

https://instagram.com/p/7mK92vxd4H/

Absolutely indisputable evidence that Ricky has resolved all of his shooting issues!

Heh. But that's definitely the shot that he should be working on. Nevermind the pull-up 18 footers when opposing guards go underneath the screen. Nevermind the poor finishing. I just don't see how guys at his age can really improve shooting while on the move (pull-ups and finishing). But they CAN improve catch-and-shoot 3's. We've seen it with others over the years and even Rubio has had a few respectable years from beyond the arc both in Europe and in the NBA. If he can hit 3's and Free's, I can live with the poor finishing and pull-up jumpers.

Developing a set shot doesn't help at all when you're the primary ball handler. That's the reason he has to learn to finish at the rim or hit the 18 ft jumper. When you take the ball out of his hands he brings no positives to an offense so while a set shot would help in that regard, his value still would mostly come from having the ball in his hands setting up other guys. If he doesn't improve his finishing or shot off the dribble, he'll need to go eventually because that just won't pass in the playoffs. In today's game, your primary ball handler has to be able to score or your offense gets shut down come playoff time.

I'm not a big fan of there being any particular formula or singular attributes that one player out of a rotation of 8 or 9 MUST have to win a playoff series.

The reason I think Ricky should focus on the 3-point set shot is that it's the easiest one to improve on in my opinion and it's also the most beneficial to an offense, all things considered. I hear you on the ball handling aspect, but Ricky has found a way to be pretty damn good in pick and rolls despite his poor jumper and finishing skills.