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Re: Bench depth if healthy
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:15 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Camden wrote:Rubio, Martin, Wiggins and Towns can be penciled into the starting lineup right now (assuming we stay true to all reports and draft Towns). Those four guys will be there and I'd bet big money on it.
If Pek actually is healthy, then he'd be my fifth starter over Garnett. A healthy Pek is a really productive Pek and I've stated many times I believe Towns could play next to him.
If Pek's not healthy, then you look at Garnett as being the guy to start, although he obvously wouldn't play starter minutes.
We saw it last year with Wiggins. We'll see it this year with Towns. No. 1 picks are given the chance to start from day one (unless you're Anthony Bennett).
I agree with your top four, but I think KG starts next to Towns/Okafor, even with a healthy Pek. Flip will want KG to set the tone defensively and help cover for their rookie big man. Plus, KG's Magic Mentoring Potion© works best when applied at the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters.
Re: Bench depth if healthy
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:18 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Carlos Danger wrote:Whoah. I like LaVine as much as you guys. But I certainly don't see him starting over Martin - at least to begin the season. I'd hope he can over take Martin at some point during the season. But I would make him earn it. There should still be plenty of minutes for him as back up SG and PG. Also, remember Coaches normally don't want a ton of young guys all on the same unit. Wiggins + Towns would fine. But if you have three young guys I think that might be too much.
Agreed. Let the kid earn it. If he really does take a step in the right direction, then Flip will eventually make the switch. Either way, Flip is going to find playing time for LaVine.
Re: Bench depth if healthy
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:23 pm
by worldK
Q12543 wrote:Camden wrote:Rubio, Martin, Wiggins and Towns can be penciled into the starting lineup right now (assuming we stay true to all reports and draft Towns). Those four guys will be there and I'd bet big money on it.
If Pek actually is healthy, then he'd be my fifth starter over Garnett. A healthy Pek is a really productive Pek and I've stated many times I believe Towns could play next to him.
If Pek's not healthy, then you look at Garnett as being the guy to start, although he obvously wouldn't play starter minutes.
We saw it last year with Wiggins. We'll see it this year with Towns. No. 1 picks are given the chance to start from day one (unless you're Anthony Bennett).
I agree with your top four, but I think KG starts next to Towns/Okafor, even with a healthy Pek. Flip will want KG to set the tone defensively and help cover for their rookie big man. Plus, KG's Magic Mentoring Potion© works best when applied at the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters.
I agree q. Kg will get the start even if he only plays part time. Flip will never bring kg off the bench. Just not flip's character to do that. Only way kg comes off the bench is if he volunteer to do so. Kind of like mitchell telling flip to start the rookie kg over him back then.
I think towns should and will start. I dont see kg telling flip to start pek, dieng or payne over him.
Re: Bench depth if healthy
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:46 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
worldK wrote:Q12543 wrote:Camden wrote:Rubio, Martin, Wiggins and Towns can be penciled into the starting lineup right now (assuming we stay true to all reports and draft Towns). Those four guys will be there and I'd bet big money on it.
If Pek actually is healthy, then he'd be my fifth starter over Garnett. A healthy Pek is a really productive Pek and I've stated many times I believe Towns could play next to him.
If Pek's not healthy, then you look at Garnett as being the guy to start, although he obvously wouldn't play starter minutes.
We saw it last year with Wiggins. We'll see it this year with Towns. No. 1 picks are given the chance to start from day one (unless you're Anthony Bennett).
I agree with your top four, but I think KG starts next to Towns/Okafor, even with a healthy Pek. Flip will want KG to set the tone defensively and help cover for their rookie big man. Plus, KG's Magic Mentoring Potion© works best when applied at the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters.
I agree q. Kg will get the start even if he only plays part time. Flip will never bring kg off the bench. Just not flip's character to do that. Only way kg comes off the bench is if he volunteer to do so. Kind of like mitchell telling flip to start the rookie kg over him back then.
I think towns should and will start. I dont see kg telling flip to start pek, dieng or payne over him.
Right. He's a token starter that helps set the tone defensively, but ultimately plays only about 1/3rd of the game. It's not a new concept, as many teams in the past have started a defensive Center (PF in our particular case) to start halves, only for him to sit for large stretches deeper in the period.
My concern is a Payne/Dieng/Shabazz/LaVine/potential rookie PG bench. That is just awful defensively. One could make a reasonable case that KG would fit better on that side of the rotation, but I just don't see it happening.
Re: Bench depth if healthy
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:52 pm
by Volans19
Q - Have you given up hope on Dieng becoming a competent defender? I know you've blasted him all year (his bad habits and poor frame) but do you think any of that is correctable?
Re: Bench depth if healthy
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:00 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Volans19 wrote:Q - Have you given up hope on Dieng becoming a competent defender? I know you've blasted him all year (his bad habits and poor frame) but do you think any of that is correctable?
Not completely. I actually think he can be halfway decent if paired up with some muscle. He and Pekovic played quite well together defensively when Dieng didn't have to bang with bigger, stronger players. But if he's the guy anchoring the paint, paired up with someone like Payne.....Ugh.
The problem is he's an old-ish two year vet. How much more can he really improve in terms of his strength, balance, and fundamentals? If it hasn't happened by now, after multiple years playing top flight D-1 ball and now two years in the NBA.......
Re: Bench depth if healthy
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:00 pm
by worldK
Q12543 wrote:
Right. He's a token starter that helps set the tone defensively, but ultimately plays only about 1/3rd of the game. It's not a new concept, as many teams in the past have started a defensive Center (PF in our particular case) to start halves, only for him to sit for large stretches deeper in the period.
My concern is a Payne/Dieng/Shabazz/LaVine/potential rookie PG bench. That is just awful defensively. One could make a reasonable case that KG would fit better on that side of the rotation, but I just don't see it happening.
[do so. Kind of like mitchell telling flip to start the rookie kg over him back then.
I think towns should and will start. I dont see kg telling flip to start pek, dieng or payne over him.
Right. He's a token starter that helps set the tone defensively, but ultimately plays only about 1/3rd of the game. It's not a new concept, as many teams in the past have started a defensive Center (PF in our particular case) to start halves, only for him to sit for large stretches deeper in the period.
My concern is a Payne/Dieng/Shabazz/LaVine/potential rookie PG bench. That is just awful defensively. One could make a reasonable case that KG would fit better on that side of the rotation, but I just don't see it happening.
I dont see kg being more effective with the 2nd unit to be honest. At this stage of his career, he cant be a go to scorer or a reliable one at that. He will look better if paired with better players and in turn, he can compliment and make the whole team better in that way.
The key for us with regards to our bench play is for pek to stay healthy and to trade or sign a capable pg ( like a darren collison). A pg to run the team and pek inside along with lavine at sg and bazz and dieng at the forward spots. Thats a good set of 2nd string players.