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MikeAz wrote:I don't see the point of trading him for a mediocre return, you're just wasting cap space and flexibility. In the long run, they're better off stinking than fighting for that last playoff spot every year.

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lipoli390 wrote:If we can get Marcus Smart, Olynyk and a couple unprotected future first round picks from the Celtics for Love rather than simple letting Love walk, it would ridiculous to pass on that deal.

The Celtics have signed Smart already, at what point can they trade him?

MikeAz wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:If we can get Marcus Smart, Olynyk and a couple unprotected future first round picks from the Celtics for Love rather than simple letting Love walk, it would ridiculous to pass on that deal.

The Celtics have signed Smart already, at what point can they trade him?

They can trade him 30 days after signing. So that won't be a barrier.

lipoli390 wrote:

MikeAz wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:If we can get Marcus Smart, Olynyk and a couple unprotected future first round picks from the Celtics for Love rather than simple letting Love walk, it would ridiculous to pass on that deal.

The Celtics have signed Smart already, at what point can they trade him?

They can trade him 30 days after signing. So that won't be a barrier.

In that case maybe the Wolves should be working with the Suns on a deal including TJ Warren.

Dragic, TJ Warren, Markieff Morris and a pick for Love & Bud?

MikeAz wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

MikeAz wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:If we can get Marcus Smart, Olynyk and a couple unprotected future first round picks from the Celtics for Love rather than simple letting Love walk, it would ridiculous to pass on that deal.

The Celtics have signed Smart already, at what point can they trade him?

They can trade him 30 days after signing. So that won't be a barrier.

In that case maybe the Wolves should be working with the Suns on a deal including TJ Warren.

Dragic, TJ Warren, Markieff Morris and a pick for Love & Bud?

Not bad

One of the biggest differences of opinion on this board is what constitutes an acceptable return for Love. It has to do mostly with different perceptions about Love's perceived value around the league. I want a Wiggins deal...I just don't see it happening.

I think Lip's suggestion of Smart, Olynyk and 2 picks is acceptable, but I know some would vehemently disagree. I'm not sure Ainge will give up Smart, and frankly I worry about adding another very poor shooter to this roster (although I love aspects of his game too), so I have suggested they may be more likely to substitute Thornton for Smart in that deal. I know that most here would immediately reject that deal, but I think Flip has to look at it, and I still think it is preferable to letting him walk. That deal would give us a player that Flip likes and immediately becomes our starting PF, a SG that I don't particularly like but who does help our outside shooting and is only under contract for one more year, and 2 first round picks. Not great, but perhaps the best we can get. Let's hope not.

alexftbl8181 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:If the choice is nothing versus something for Love, it should be a really easy choice. You take something.

If it's nothing or getting a 20 cents covered in dog poop, Ill take nothing

This is where I stand as well. If someone told me I had a Ferrari for one more year or I could sell it for $1,000, I'd just enjoy the last year with my 'rari and maybe I'd be able to keep it after that year. No reason to settle.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

MikeAz wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

MikeAz wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:If we can get Marcus Smart, Olynyk and a couple unprotected future first round picks from the Celtics for Love rather than simple letting Love walk, it would ridiculous to pass on that deal.

The Celtics have signed Smart already, at what point can they trade him?

They can trade him 30 days after signing. So that won't be a barrier.

In that case maybe the Wolves should be working with the Suns on a deal including TJ Warren.

Dragic, TJ Warren, Markieff Morris and a pick for Love & Bud?

Not bad

That's $21 million in Wolves salary for only $12 million of Suns' salary, so I don't think it works. Love Dragic though.

alexftbl8181 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:If the choice is nothing versus something for Love, it should be a really easy choice. You take something.

If it's nothing or getting a 20 cents covered in dog poop, Ill take nothing

Lol. Alex - I'll take 20 cents over ZERO any day of the week. And it's only covered in dog poop if it includes more bad long-term contracts like the ones Flip agreed to last summer. That's not what I have in mind and it won't be necessary.

There's a Boston deal to be had that would not include a bunch of bad cap-eating contracts. Olynyk and Smart are extremely reasonable rookie-scale contracts - not to mention the fact that they are talented young players with considerable upside. Add a couple unprotected first round picks and it's far more than 20 cents on the dollar for the Wolves. The only significant contract we'd have to take to match salaries would be Green's, but he only has 2 years left on his deal and would instantly be an upgrade at SF over what we had last season.

Even a Cavs deal without Wiggins would not be covered in dog dung. Waiters and Bennett are on reasonable rookie contracts that's are relatively cheap AND give the Wolves the option not to renew. Not to mention that Waiters and Bennett have talent and significant upside. Add a couple first round picks and it's a decent deal for the Wolves compared to getting nothing more than one more season with Love.

It would be ridiculous to keep Love rather than take deals like these. Otherwise we have Love one more season with nothing more than a chance of making the playoffs - probably a 7th or 8th seed as our best case scenario. Another advantage of trading Love is that we can control where he goes -- including getting him out of the Western Conference.

Camden wrote:

alexftbl8181 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:If the choice is nothing versus something for Love, it should be a really easy choice. You take something.

If it's nothing or getting a 20 cents covered in dog poop, Ill take nothing

This is where I stand as well. If someone told me I had a Ferrari for one more year or I could sell it for $1,000, I'd just enjoy the last year with my 'rari and maybe I'd be able to keep it after that year. No reason to settle.

Hmmm, let's go with that one. You have a lot of fun with the Ferrari for a year (even though the Ferrari doesn't want to be in your garage :( ), and someone is offering you an Audi S-4 now in exchange for you giving up the Ferrari. I let the unhappy Ferrari go and take the lesser car.