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longstrangetrip wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:We have to remember Jones is not even close to being a lottery pick. At #24 he's just another late first round pick with strengths and weaknesses. Personally I really like him and can't wait to see how he does this year. But if he doesn't excel in the NBA, it's not the worst thing that could happen too us.

Yep, guys picked at #24 aren't expected to be stars. Here's a list of players the Wolves have picked after #20 in the first round.

Andre Roberson
Lazar Hayward
Wayne Ellington
Ndudi Ebi
Paul Grant (I watched this clumsy oaf's workout...still cant believe we drafted him!)
Gerald Glass

Only Ellington has carved out a respectable NBA career, although nothing special. Roberson started for OkC last year, but only averaged 3 PPG.

Some may say that this is an indictment of the Wolves' drafting, and that argument can certainly be made. But I also think you could find similar results with other team, and my point is still valid...not much is expected of late first rounders.

My expectations for Jones are much higher. He just seems like a winner to me.

longstrangetrip wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:We have to remember Jones is not even close to being a lottery pick. At #24 he's just another late first round pick with strengths and weaknesses. Personally I really like him and can't wait to see how he does this year. But if he doesn't excel in the NBA, it's not the worst thing that could happen too us.

Yep, guys picked at #24 aren't expected to be stars. Here's a list of players the Wolves have picked after #20 in the first round.

Andre Roberson
Lazar Hayward
Wayne Ellington
Ndudi Ebi
Paul Grant (I watched this clumsy oaf's workout...still cant believe we drafted him!)
Gerald Glass

Only Ellington has carved out a respectable NBA career, although nothing special. Roberson started for OkC last year, but only averaged 3 PPG.

Some may say that this is an indictment of the Wolves' drafting, and that argument can certainly be made. But I also think you could find similar results with other team, and my point is still valid...not much is expected of late first rounders.

My expectations for Jones are much higher. He just seems like a winner to me.

monsterpile wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:We have to remember Jones is not even close to being a lottery pick. At #24 he's just another late first round pick with strengths and weaknesses. Personally I really like him and can't wait to see how he does this year. But if he doesn't excel in the NBA, it's not the worst thing that could happen too us.

Yep, guys picked at #24 aren't expected to be stars. Here's a list of players the Wolves have picked after #20 in the first round.

Andre Roberson
Lazar Hayward
Wayne Ellington
Ndudi Ebi
Paul Grant (I watched this clumsy oaf's workout...still cant believe we drafted him!)
Gerald Glass

Only Ellington has carved out a respectable NBA career, although nothing special. Roberson started for OkC last year, but only averaged 3 PPG.

Some may say that this is an indictment of the Wolves' drafting, and that argument can certainly be made. But I also think you could find similar results with other team, and my point is still valid...not much is expected of late first rounders.

My expectations for Jones are much higher. He just seems like a winner to me.

After looking at what the #24 pick produced in the past chances are pretty decent we have a worthwhile player. :)

http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-picks/24th-overall/240509/

Q12543 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:We have to remember Jones is not even close to being a lottery pick. At #24 he's just another late first round pick with strengths and weaknesses. Personally I really like him and can't wait to see how he does this year. But if he doesn't excel in the NBA, it's not the worst thing that could happen too us.

Yep, guys picked at #24 aren't expected to be stars. Here's a list of players the Wolves have picked after #20 in the first round.

Andre Roberson
Lazar Hayward
Wayne Ellington
Ndudi Ebi
Paul Grant (I watched this clumsy oaf's workout...still cant believe we drafted him!)
Gerald Glass

Only Ellington has carved out a respectable NBA career, although nothing special. Roberson started for OkC last year, but only averaged 3 PPG.

Some may say that this is an indictment of the Wolves' drafting, and that argument can certainly be made. But I also think you could find similar results with other team, and my point is still valid...not much is expected of late first rounders.

My expectations for Jones are much higher. He just seems like a winner to me.

So here is my problem with what Flip did: We gave up three 2nd rounders for him, including #31 and #36 in this year's draft. So what are the odds that one or more of those three 2nd rounders eventually pans out into a good rotation player versus putting all of our eggs in pick #24?

Q12543 wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:We have to remember Jones is not even close to being a lottery pick. At #24 he's just another late first round pick with strengths and weaknesses. Personally I really like him and can't wait to see how he does this year. But if he doesn't excel in the NBA, it's not the worst thing that could happen too us.

Yep, guys picked at #24 aren't expected to be stars. Here's a list of players the Wolves have picked after #20 in the first round.

Andre Roberson
Lazar Hayward
Wayne Ellington
Ndudi Ebi
Paul Grant (I watched this clumsy oaf's workout...still cant believe we drafted him!)
Gerald Glass

Only Ellington has carved out a respectable NBA career, although nothing special. Roberson started for OkC last year, but only averaged 3 PPG.

Some may say that this is an indictment of the Wolves' drafting, and that argument can certainly be made. But I also think you could find similar results with other team, and my point is still valid...not much is expected of late first rounders.

My expectations for Jones are much higher. He just seems like a winner to me.

So here is my problem with what Flip did: We gave up three 2nd rounders for him, including #31 and #36 in this year's draft. So what are the odds that one or more of those three 2nd rounders eventually pans out into a good rotation player versus putting all of our eggs in pick #24?

AbeVigodaLive wrote:I like Jones. I really want him to do well... because it would let me hold on to that ever-so-tiny semblance of my mind that makes me think I can relate to these NBA players just because I play a lot of basketball.

Tyus Jones isn't super fast. (relative). Not super athletic. (relative) But the guy knows how to play. His composure as a college freshman PG at one of the marquee schools in college hoops history... from the beginning (Wisconsin road game) to the championship game was amazing. I think it was more rare than even he got credit for. Again, this wasn't some super freak athlete out there. It was a 18/19 year kid playing with incredible poise.

My brain tells me that the kid is just too small and not athletic enough to be a difference maker in the pros against the best players in the world. But the kid hasn't let anybody down yet.


[Note: I remember discussing Jones after that first Wisconsin game. I didn't think he was going pro at that point... not even close. He seemed like a kid destined to be in the college game for 2 or 3 years... if he had... I think he would have become a bit of a legendary PG. In the pros... I think he can be a serviceable backup. And that would have been more than enough when guys like Brevin Knight or Jonny Flynn were starters. Right now, the league is littered with good to great PGs.]