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Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:36 pm
by Volans19
Kevin Love and Dwight Howard would be a devastating force. Add Melo and that would complete the trifecta of attention hungry divas. But seriously, it wouldn't be fair, but still so awesome

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:53 pm
by Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:On realgm I see that Golden State would be interested in taking Parsons and Lin in exchange for their TPE so Houston can get the cap room. Sounds like a contingency plan after a Love trade.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/233915/Warriors-Interested-In-Parsons-Deal-If-Rockets-Need-Help-Unloading-LinGo Wolves...



Not sure this works at all. A resigned Parsons and Lin would be about $27M in salary for next season. Golden State, unlike the Pelicans, are well over the cap and can't absorb anything. If I understand rules, they would have to send back at least 75% of that value in return, which makes the deal moot for Houston.

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:18 pm
by Phenom
Hicks123 wrote:
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:On realgm I see that Golden State would be interested in taking Parsons and Lin in exchange for their TPE so Houston can get the cap room. Sounds like a contingency plan after a Love trade.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/233915/Warriors-Interested-In-Parsons-Deal-If-Rockets-Need-Help-Unloading-LinGo Wolves...



Not sure this works at all. A resigned Parsons and Lin would be about $27M in salary for next season. Golden State, unlike the Pelicans, are well over the cap and can't absorb anything. If I understand rules, they would have to send back at least 75% of that value in return, which makes the deal moot for Houston.


Well the TPE is worth 9 million ish, I think. If they take Lin before July 1, then that is his contract cleared. The question is if Parsons can be traded now that his option was declined. I do not think so, so it would have to be 2 separate deals, one before July 1 and one after. The reason this works is Houston clears Lin's salary before the new year and Parsons has a very small cap hold, less than 2 million. So, in theory, Houston can wait to do anything with Parsons until they make their bigger moves since his low cap hold won't cut into their money too much. Once they make their big moves, then they could sign and trade Parsons for whoever from GS (dont know who) and be able to exceed the cap that way.

Edit: That said, I am sure that Houston wants to dump Lin on his own and resign Parsons for themselves, after they get a big fish.

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:52 am
by whatdtcom [enjin:6685945]
Speaking of Flip....anyone else recall him saying that after watching Garnett go through his workout that he was so impress that they (with McHale) hoped that Garnett was available at 5?

If he so called promised LaVine at 13----I would think that it's somewhat like this. Garnett was/is a greater prospect (at the time). Still, I believe in Flips basketball acumen then those of Kahns. David was just a great numbers person.

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:47 am
by Porckchop
People are unhappy with Kevin loves defense, watching Harden play defense will make u sick to ur stomach. Plus perimeter defense is at a premium these days. If you have a defensive minded center you can hide the deficiencies of urpower forward .

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:52 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
PorkChop wrote:People are unhappy with Kevin loves defense, watching Harden play defense will make u sick to ur stomach. Plus perimeter defense is at a premium these days. If you have a defensive minded center you can hide the deficiencies of urpower forward .


Meh. SG is a much thinner position than PF. Harden gets the weaker backcourt scorer on a nightly basis (sometimes strictly shooters). Love gets the Blake Griffin, Lamarcus Aldridge talents out there. Think Harden's issue a lesser demon to conquer. If we could get Harden somehow (unlikely), it'd be as big of a win as there is.

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:14 am
by Monster
whatdtcom wrote:Speaking of Flip....anyone else recall him saying that after watching Garnett go through his workout that he was so impress that they (with McHale) hoped that Garnett was available at 5?

If he so called promised LaVine at 13----I would think that it's somewhat like this. Garnett was/is a greater prospect (at the time). Still, I believe in Flips basketball acumen then those of Kahns. David was just a great numbers person.


I've thought of this too especially considering Flip said that said last year Cody Zeller was the most impressive athlete they had tested since KG or something like that. I just watched a couple interviews of LaVine on DX and while I don't get excited about guys based on interviews he at least didn't seem like a total idiot so that's something. Lol

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:34 am
by 60WinTim
On the contract values for Asik and Lin, I believe for cap purposes the salary is averaged out per year over the life of the contract, even though the actual dollars paid are according to the contract terms. Thus Asik's and Lin's cap hit is 8 mil per year for each of them.

Re: Patience for Flip and Wolves fans...

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:35 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
monsterpile wrote:
whatdtcom wrote:Speaking of Flip....anyone else recall him saying that after watching Garnett go through his workout that he was so impress that they (with McHale) hoped that Garnett was available at 5?

If he so called promised LaVine at 13----I would think that it's somewhat like this. Garnett was/is a greater prospect (at the time). Still, I believe in Flips basketball acumen then those of Kahns. David was just a great numbers person.


I've thought of this too especially considering Flip said that said last year Cody Zeller was the most impressive athlete they had tested since KG or something like that. I just watched a couple interviews of LaVine on DX and while I don't get excited about guys based on interviews he at least didn't seem like a total idiot so that's something. Lol

Yeah, I agree that LaVine is a well-spoken guy...he just isn't a very good basketball player. We need a player who is ready to contribute right away.

Whatdtcom- the difference between Flip's evaluation of Garnett and LaVine is that he kept really quiet after the Garnett workout because he and McHale were so afraid somebody else would take him. That's Flip's style when he wants someone...to stay quiet. His positive comments about LaVine and the rumor about the promise to draft him at 13 has to be a smokescreen. I can't think of any reason a GM would make a guarantee to a player that they are going to draft him at 13...what do they get out of that?