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TheGrey08 wrote:Bleed, honestly my first response to that first post was "big yikes".

You speaking negatively about a firefighter/paramedic you don't know anything about.. c'mon man.. all that did was cause me to lose a little respect for you.



Bleed wrote: "She was the type of person that didn't get her job by merit.."

If you know something we don't know Bleed... by all means share it. Otherwise, that kind of commentary is shitty and a huge part of the problem.
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FNG wrote:With another black guy dead after a traffic stop in town yesterday, I'm a little wary of being downtown all day today (gonna be shivering at the Twins game and then going to the Wolves game tonight). I don't know the details, but there was rioting in Brooklyn Center. I wouldn't be surprised if it moves downtown today and tonight. Terrible timing for the Chauvin trial too.

Hoping and praying for cooler heads and peace.

OOF... yeah that's horrendous timing and apparently the drivers door was open, the cop shouted taser taser taser, drew and fired once.. but it wasn't her taser. She's apparently receiving medical care. If that's how it played out, that's even more devastating. I just hope the government wakes the hell up and passes sweeping police training reform. We just need this shit to stop happening.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
TheGrey08 wrote:Bleed, honestly my first response to that first post was "big yikes".

You speaking negatively about a firefighter/paramedic you don't know anything about.. c'mon man.. all that did was cause me to lose a little respect for you.



Bleed wrote: "She was the type of person that didn't get her job by merit.."

If you know something we don't know Bleed... by all means share it. Otherwise, that kind of commentary is shitty and a huge part of the problem.


In fairness to Bleed, I think he was just offering his opinion - which is what we all do here. I watched that paramedic on the stand and also did not think she came off very well in the trial or on the police cams. I know emotions were high. But she was more confrontational than helpful (IMO). The judge actually reprimanded her at the trial as she kept responding to the defense cross examination questions by adding her slant - vs. just answering questions as required. I mean, that's what the trial is for....the defense has to do what they can to present their best case. The jury will decide and hopefully that will be the end of it.
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TheGrey08 wrote:
FNG wrote:With another black guy dead after a traffic stop in town yesterday, I'm a little wary of being downtown all day today (gonna be shivering at the Twins game and then going to the Wolves game tonight). I don't know the details, but there was rioting in Brooklyn Center. I wouldn't be surprised if it moves downtown today and tonight. Terrible timing for the Chauvin trial too.

Hoping and praying for cooler heads and peace.

OOF... yeah that's horrendous timing and apparently the drivers door was open, the cop shouted taser taser taser, drew and fired once.. but it wasn't her taser. She's apparently receiving medical care. If that's how it played out, that's even more devastating. I just hope the government wakes the hell up and passes sweeping police training reform. We just need this shit to stop happening.


Just shut down the GOV entirely. No police to worry about, no taxes to pay.
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Carlos Danger wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
TheGrey08 wrote:Bleed, honestly my first response to that first post was "big yikes".

You speaking negatively about a firefighter/paramedic you don't know anything about.. c'mon man.. all that did was cause me to lose a little respect for you.



Bleed wrote: "She was the type of person that didn't get her job by merit.."

If you know something we don't know Bleed... by all means share it. Otherwise, that kind of commentary is shitty and a huge part of the problem.


In fairness to Bleed, I think he was just offering his opinion - which is what we all do here. I watched that paramedic on the stand and also did not think she came off very well in the trial or on the police cams. I know emotions were high. But she was more confrontational than helpful (IMO). The judge actually reprimanded her at the trial as she kept responding to the defense cross examination questions by adding her slant - vs. just answering questions as required. I mean, that's what the trial is for....the defense has to do what they can to present their best case. The jury will decide and hopefully that will be the end of it.



We're on a slippery slope with that one. I'm not really interested in going down that goalpost-laden rabbit hole if I'm being honest.

So... ok. I guess.
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TheGrey08 wrote:
FNG wrote:With another black guy dead after a traffic stop in town yesterday, I'm a little wary of being downtown all day today (gonna be shivering at the Twins game and then going to the Wolves game tonight). I don't know the details, but there was rioting in Brooklyn Center. I wouldn't be surprised if it moves downtown today and tonight. Terrible timing for the Chauvin trial too.

Hoping and praying for cooler heads and peace.

OOF... yeah that's horrendous timing and apparently the drivers door was open, the cop shouted taser taser taser, drew and fired once.. but it wasn't her taser. She's apparently receiving medical care. If that's how it played out, that's even more devastating. I just hope the government wakes the hell up and passes sweeping police training reform. We just need this shit to stop happening.

Are you similarly appalled at the black on black crime happening every night in Chicago? Should the government wake the hell up and do something about that? Yes, there are a few incidents of police brutality every year and some result in injury and death. Cops are human and like anybody else make mistakes. There are also some bad apples that shouldn't be cops. But most are good, decent professionals who put their life on the line every shift. What training do you want them to get? Make sure you take a bullet or knife before the career criminal does? Let criminals get away with all crime if they show any resistance or flee? I wish the people who have never been in that life or death situation would STFU.
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Re: OT - City of Minneapolis

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Might be time to move this thread off the Timberwolves forum?

Apologies... I realize it might seem hypocritical after posting in it. But there's a good chance it's going to get much more incendiary soon.

Maybe some of these discussions are warranted... but there is a forum where they belong.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
TheGrey08 wrote:Bleed, honestly my first response to that first post was "big yikes".

You speaking negatively about a firefighter/paramedic you don't know anything about.. c'mon man.. all that did was cause me to lose a little respect for you.



Bleed wrote: "She was the type of person that didn't get her job by merit.."

If you know something we don't know Bleed... by all means share it. Otherwise, that kind of commentary is shitty and a huge part of the problem.


I am sorry you took it that way.

Just speaking from as a person that is a friend of a fire chief and him acknowledging best candidates are not hired. (He got his job over a friend that outscored him due to him having past military service) I don't care what race or sex a person is as long as they are the best for the job. Sometimes those skills might be unique or fill in gaps on a team, but someone that is combative with courts and tries to say that dispatch and others did their job wrong was pretty telling.
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WolvesFan21 wrote:

Just shut down the GOV entirely. No police to worry about, no taxes to pay.


I don't speak Mandarin well enough for that. :-)
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Re: OT - City of Minneapolis

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AbeVigodaLive wrote:Might be time to move this thread off the Timberwolves forum?

Apologies... I realize it might seem hypocritical after posting in it. But there's a good chance it's going to get much more incendiary soon.

Maybe some of these discussions are warranted... but there is a forum where they belong.


Agreed - Unless this all can be blamed on Glen Taylor somehow.
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