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BizarroJerry wrote:Of course Stephen A(sshole) Smith is now pushing for Klay to go to the Lakers. I don't watch him, only caught a few minutes but jeebus, I just don't know if the Wolves can ever get there. I know this is not a new argument, but we have everything working against us. Why are we hanging on to this team?
WolvesFan21 wrote:BizarroJerry wrote:Of course Stephen A(sshole) Smith is now pushing for Klay to go to the Lakers. I don't watch him, only caught a few minutes but jeebus, I just don't know if the Wolves can ever get there. I know this is not a new argument, but we have everything working against us. Why are we hanging on to this team?
KAT without Thibs and Butler, 28 and 14.
Duke13 wrote:thedoper wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Some of my favorite posters are still lamenting the possibility Butler will be gone soon. I continue to embrace it. Does a few extra wins really trump the damage Jimmy's done to this organization? Not even close in my mind. We aren't getting out of the first round with Jimmy here. He should be reviled, not appreciated. Keep in mind what we traded for the guy who demanded a trade after one injury riddled campaign. Keep in mind he is nearly solely responsible for the position we found ourselves in during training camp. I can't wait till he's gone no matter what the return is.
I'm with you on Jimmy, he disgusts me and I want him gone. That being said I'm almost equally disgusted by Taylor in this situation making it hard for me to stay enthusiastic. That being said, I'm excited to see Wiggins and Okogie run together in long stints. Excited to see KAT take charge of this team. We'll get some sort of asset back, so yeah it will be easier for me to cheer with some enthusiasm again. I've just been watching these games with Jimmy in a daze.
I hope you weren't being literal when wanting to see Wig and Okogie "run" together!! I suggest you don't blink when watching them on the court together, because one blink and you're likely to miss Wig run. I believe the stat is, Wig runs around 5% of the time in the court. Again don't blind.
Disregard the above if you meant it more figuratively, and just want to see them on the court at the same time.
thedoper wrote:Duke13 wrote:thedoper wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Some of my favorite posters are still lamenting the possibility Butler will be gone soon. I continue to embrace it. Does a few extra wins really trump the damage Jimmy's done to this organization? Not even close in my mind. We aren't getting out of the first round with Jimmy here. He should be reviled, not appreciated. Keep in mind what we traded for the guy who demanded a trade after one injury riddled campaign. Keep in mind he is nearly solely responsible for the position we found ourselves in during training camp. I can't wait till he's gone no matter what the return is.
I'm with you on Jimmy, he disgusts me and I want him gone. That being said I'm almost equally disgusted by Taylor in this situation making it hard for me to stay enthusiastic. That being said, I'm excited to see Wiggins and Okogie run together in long stints. Excited to see KAT take charge of this team. We'll get some sort of asset back, so yeah it will be easier for me to cheer with some enthusiasm again. I've just been watching these games with Jimmy in a daze.
I hope you weren't being literal when wanting to see Wig and Okogie "run" together!! I suggest you don't blink when watching them on the court together, because one blink and you're likely to miss Wig run. I believe the stat is, Wig runs around 5% of the time in the court. Again don't blind.
Disregard the above if you meant it more figuratively, and just want to see them on the court at the same time.
It was figurative for playing basketball. Thanks for the deep analysis of Wiggins game. Always appreciated to hear the broken record.
longstrangetrip wrote:I thoroughly enjoyed my first in person game of the year...albeit not in my seats but instead in Row N of Section 231 (about a mile behind Lip!). Never seen so much consensus on this board about a game:
1) Butler was terrific, but can't help already missing him.
2) Great to have Happy KAT back...man he was tough on the offensive boards!
3) Okogie is exceeding expectations...I hope his fighting over screens in contagious
4) Rose is fun to watch, but needs to shoot less and more efficiently
5) Thibs is improving as a coach, but blundered in not substituting Okogie for Rose when we built a 10-point lead...almost cost us the game, except Butler bailed him out
6) It's just bizarre how, game in and game out, Jones continues to dominate the +/- stat. Although he's not especially big or fast, his disruption on defense and refusal to turn the ball over almost always lead to positive results. Yes, he gets a lot of steals, but more importantly when you watch him live, it's incredible how often him just being in the right place defensively forces the opponent to alter their play. Just a great asset to have on the second unit, even when he goes 3-1-0.
Lip, I noticed the 4th quarter Okogie moment you mentioned (through my binoculars :cry: )...he is a fun guy to watch, on and off the court.
longstrangetrip wrote:I thoroughly enjoyed my first in person game of the year...albeit not in my seats but instead in Row N of Section 231 (about a mile behind Lip!). Never seen so much consensus on this board about a game:
1) Butler was terrific, but can't help already missing him.
2) Great to have Happy KAT back...man he was tough on the offensive boards!
3) Okogie is exceeding expectations...I hope his fighting over screens in contagious
4) Rose is fun to watch, but needs to shoot less and more efficiently
5) Thibs is improving as a coach, but blundered in not substituting Okogie for Rose when we built a 10-point lead...almost cost us the game, except Butler bailed him out
6) It's just bizarre how, game in and game out, Jones continues to dominate the +/- stat. Although he's not especially big or fast, his disruption on defense and refusal to turn the ball over almost always lead to positive results. Yes, he gets a lot of steals, but more importantly when you watch him live, it's incredible how often him just being in the right place defensively forces the opponent to alter their play. Just a great asset to have on the second unit, even when he goes 3-1-0.
Lip, I noticed the 4th quarter Okogie moment you mentioned (through my binoculars :cry: )...he is a fun guy to watch, on and off the court.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Jimmy professes to be all about winning but his actions suggest he's all about money. There is an element of phoniness to him. I can appreciate his considerable basketball skills while still not respecting the person. And I feel he's done more damage to the Wolves than good.
I'm going to be honest, for the first time in about 20 years I watched the Bucks over the Wolves last night. My Bucks loyalties precede the Wolves franchise even though I've become more of a Wolves fan over the years. When Jimmy's gone I will go back to watching the Wolves realizing we won't be as good. As Q said, the whole thing sucks.
More than an element of phoniness... he's basically a fraud.
A very talented basketball player... but a fraud nonetheless. Unfortunately, there's still a lot of people out there who dig him for his "badass alphaness" in this debacle.
BizarroJerry wrote:Of course Stephen A(sshole) Smith is now pushing for Klay to go to the Lakers. I don't watch him, only caught a few minutes but jeebus, I just don't know if the Wolves can ever get there. I know this is not a new argument, but we have everything working against us. Why are we hanging on to this team?