Minnesota Sports Forum

Football is very very different than the NBA. The league is designed to treat its players like gladiators. Playing careers are short. Career-changing injuries are common.

There isn't nearly as much patience in those "wait until next season" when the rest of the team is primed now for immediate success... especially with the aura of a brand-new shiny stadium about to open. Sure, we can say "let's wait until next year for Teddy" to make a run. But will Peterson still be a top-notch force? How many defections will the team lose from its defense? Other injuries to other key spots?

The team can't realistically count on an aging career backup, Shaun Hill, to play 16 games. And I can't imagine anybody thinks Stave is close to a starting NFL QB. The franchise owes it to the other players and coaches and even fans to maximize the talent that's on the team. I think they can do that without mortgaging the future.

Even a retread like Sanchez might be enough to get them to the playoffs behind GB. It's not ideal... but it's not completely giving up on the season and saying "Oh well, better luck next season."

Zimmer said at his presser that he and Spielman have already had discussions. I suspect they will add another quarterback in fairly short order. The question is will that QB be acquired with the intent to start, or just add depth behind Hill?

60WinTim wrote:Zimmer said at his presser that he and Spielman have already had discussions. I suspect they will add another quarterback in fairly short order. The question is will that QB be acquired with the intent to start, or just add depth behind Hill?

I think they will add a QB also, but fairly certain it will just be Hill insurance...anything better would cost too much, and I don't see Spielman getting rid of some of the promising guys he has brought in.

Abe's point is well taken about the unliklihood of Hill playing 16 games. The offensive line hasnt exactly given Teddy much time this pre-season, and he has an extraoridinary skill that Hill doesn't have...the ability to sense trouble behind him and instinctively move out of the pocket. I like Hill as a relatively smart, steady game manager who fits what this team needs, but I share Abe's fears about durability.

Well teddy getting hurt sucks ass. But there are many reasons why I don't think we can just wait until next year (don't know how good are options will be)

1) This season was big in teddy development and this season we were going to find out if he could be that super bowl caliber qb now he will need a recovery year next season and then we see if he can be the guy in the 18 season meaning if teddy is just not the guy we lost 3 seasons.

2) one value of this season is that our young guys contacts are still cheap kind of like the wolves. Now going forward we will have less FA money and we will have to make big decisions on our young guys and AP who's contact takes a big pay jump.

3) also Shaun Hill is terrible and teams windows are also short we can't waste a season.


Realistically Shaun Hill is the best option because he knows the offense and the guys who could be available are just as bad.

My buddy came up with an outside the box big player in Philip . The chargers are looking like they will be bad for a couple of years so the trade allows them to rebuild and tank. Also Rivers knows norv offense playing with him the majority of his career

60WinTim wrote:Zimmer said at his presser that he and Spielman have already had discussions. I suspect they will add another quarterback in fairly short order. The question is will that QB be acquired with the intent to start, or just add depth behind Hill?

I think the answer is to some extent both. The Vikings have already had one QB go down and the season hasn't started. You can't bank on any QB making it through a whole season healthy whether they are young old in their prime etc. They are bringing back Brad Sorenson once he clears waivers likely so they at least have a guy to throw balls in camp. They will add someone more legit as time goes on. Just because he knows the offense and has been around Joel Stave probably sticks on the roster for a while maybe till Taylor is healthy enough to be able to play.

Good write up, kek. The Rivers thought has been tossed around a little and would make our offense quite potent. He's an all pro guy though, so would probably cost us a starter and a couple high picks...especially since we have little bargaining power. Question: would you give up Anthony Barr, a 2nd and a 4th for Rivers? I think that's an example of the price tag for a QB that would move the needle, and I don't do it.

The available free agents are scary...Manziel, Jackson , etc. More likely Spielman finds a team with three QBs on their roster they trust, and gives up a couple picks for the reliable non-starting vet in the trio. Anybody know who that might be?

longstrangetrip wrote:

60WinTim wrote:Zimmer said at his presser that he and Spielman have already had discussions. I suspect they will add another quarterback in fairly short order. The question is will that QB be acquired with the intent to start, or just add depth behind Hill?

I think they will add a QB also, but fairly certain it will just be Hill insurance...anything better would cost too much, and I don't see Spielman getting rid of some of the promising guys he has brought in.

Abe's point is well taken about the unliklihood of Hill playing 16 games. The offensive line hasnt exactly given Teddy much time this pre-season, and he has an extraoridinary skill that Hill doesn't have...the ability to sense trouble behind him and instinctively move out of the pocket. I like Hill as a relatively smart, steady game manager who fits what this team needs, but I share Abe's fears about durability.

What Hill may not have in mobility he may make up in making quick decisions and making a throw. Last year Teddy both good and bad held the ball a long time. Hill has been in Norv's offense before and what he will be asked to do may not be a whole lot. This may be the most all around talented team he has ever taken over.

longstrangetrip wrote:Good write up, kek. The Rivers thought has been tossed around a little and would make our offense quite potent. He's an all pro guy though, so would probably cost us a starter and a couple high picks...especially since we have little bargaining power. Question: would you give up Anthony Barr, a 2nd and a 4th for Rivers? I think that's an example of the price tag for a QB that would move the needle, and I don't do it.

The available free agents are scary...Manziel, Jackson , etc. More likely Spielman finds a team with three QBs on their roster they trust, and gives up a couple picks for the reliable non-starting vet in the trio. Anybody know who that might be?

Your trade no way. But I doubt any young starter would be added to the trade. Nfl is different you rarely see player for player trades. I think a 1st and a 4th could do it. Now do you want to give that up for an aging qb that is the question (also do the chargers do it). I would though (I realize this is under a 1% chance of happening

Meh....first off, Teddy isn't very good. Great dude, but as of yet, has shown very little as far as winning games. I hate to see the guy go down, but I honestly think he is replaceable. Yeah Rivers would be awesome, but he is a massive upgrade from Teddy, and like others, I don't expect us to fork over the required draft picks to get that trade done. Not sure who we will get, but I honestly think there are several guys we can acquire that will be every bit the player Teddy would have been.

lipoli390 wrote:Teddy's injury is so disheartening. I wish I could wake up tomorrow and realize it was just a bad dream. As for trades, I wouldn't compromise this team's strengths in other areas or mortgage its future to get a quarterback. I think the franchise and fans have to take the hit this year on the assumption that Teddy comes back strong and helps lead an otherwise strong team to a title in subsequent seasons.

That's a pretty big assumption Lip. He has a looooooong recovery ahead with no guarantee he will ever have the mobility he had before the injury. Adrian only has a couple years left, this team is built to win right now. Management owes it to the long suffering fan base to do everything they can to win right now. Let's not forget, Teddy has yet to become a top 15 quarterback in the league. This injury further clouds whether that will ever happen. I'm not willing to sacrifice a year in the hope things come together perfectly a couple years down the road.