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khans2k5 wrote:
This is what I'm talking about. The thought that we can line everything up perfectly for a 10 year run with a whole team of guys. It doesn't work like that. Contracts end in 4 years for anyone not already a T Wolf. Wiggins and Zach will be 25 and Towns 24 when any supposed huge albatrosses would be up. That's when they are going to be peaking anyway. We need guys who can hold them up now while they are young and developing, not bringing in role players around them and keep expecting them to carry us to victory for the next decade. The Warriors brought in Lee, Iggy and Bogut before Steph and Klay and Draymond became the great players who could carry the team. We need our David Lee this summer to help us start making the playoffs as soon as next year hopefully and then in 3-4 years they will be ready to carry the team there themselves and that deal for that guy who helped them out now will be up and then we can bring in the role players around them. We need our Iggy, Bogut and Lee for the next 3-4 years until Towns, Wiggins and Lavine are ready to carry the ship themselves. Otherwise we're going to keep sucking for 2-3 more years if we're expecting them to carry the team to victory this young in their careers.

Carlos Danger wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:
This is what I'm talking about. The thought that we can line everything up perfectly for a 10 year run with a whole team of guys. It doesn't work like that. Contracts end in 4 years for anyone not already a T Wolf. Wiggins and Zach will be 25 and Towns 24 when any supposed huge albatrosses would be up. That's when they are going to be peaking anyway. We need guys who can hold them up now while they are young and developing, not bringing in role players around them and keep expecting them to carry us to victory for the next decade. The Warriors brought in Lee, Iggy and Bogut before Steph and Klay and Draymond became the great players who could carry the team. We need our David Lee this summer to help us start making the playoffs as soon as next year hopefully and then in 3-4 years they will be ready to carry the team there themselves and that deal for that guy who helped them out now will be up and then we can bring in the role players around them. We need our Iggy, Bogut and Lee for the next 3-4 years until Towns, Wiggins and Lavine are ready to carry the ship themselves. Otherwise we're going to keep sucking for 2-3 more years if we're expecting them to carry the team to victory this young in their careers.

I was going to type something similar, but you beat me to it. I think you stated it very well above. It's pretty tough to build only through the draft. I understand wanting to hold off on making big moves via trade or free agency until you have some sort of a core. But what does Wiggins have left - like two more years on his deal? I believe Dieng and Bazz will be in their last year's next season. If you keep waiting, then you can get stuck in permanent rebuild mode.

We have some pieces in Towns, Wiggins, Rubio, LaVine and as everyone knows - I like Dieng. Add a couple good veteran players around those guys along with another top 5 pick. Then find a good coach to get the most out of them. I certainly think if they did those things, we'd be playoff bound next season.

whatdtcom wrote:Here are 3 guys that I would want to be here....wishful, but a possibility.

1. Nic Batum----He's a glue guy that can play multiple spots.
2. P. Gasol. Why not?! He's familiar with Ricky and he fits the 4 and vet. bill that we need. Not to mention then cap space.
3. Z. Pachulia. Yet another big that does the little things that matters.

They are all older but very servicable.

TeamRicky wrote:Noah, I want Thibs and Noah.

monsterpile wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Noah, I want Thibs and Noah.

I love Noah about as much as anyone but it's hard to see him as anything more than a part-time player because he can't seem to stay healthy and he isn't getting younger. So basically if the price is right sure but that price wouldn't be very high.

TeamRicky wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Noah, I want Thibs and Noah.

I love Noah about as much as anyone but it's hard to see him as anything more than a part-time player because he can't seem to stay healthy and he isn't getting younger. So basically if the price is right sure but that price wouldn't be very high.

I agree if the price is right. I'm assuming the Bulls want to develop Portis and Mirotic and keep Gibson and Pau. That means Chicago won't offer much to keep Noah and given his age and injuries, he'll be a lower tier free agent. But he still has some good years left and he may be happy to accept being more of a role player on our roster, plus if we have Thibs, he may sign here for a bargain amount to be part of building something special.

Camden wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:

Camden wrote:Kent Bazemore is set to become an UFA this off-season. I'd be fine with an overpay for him and use him as our sixth man playing SG and SF. Still just 26-years old too. Something around four-years, $36M sounds alright.

I like Bazemore too, but in the new FA age, he'll get substantially more than $9M a season.

Maybe. He might be able to command something like DeMarre Carroll's four-year, $60M deal he got last year if there's a team willing to pay that much. He's just not as big as Carroll nor is he as good of a 3P shooter. Think he's more so in this tier below and if I was negotiating, I'd use these other FA deals against him:

- Danny Green: 4 years, $45 million with Spurs

- Jae Crowder: 5 years, $35 million with Celtics

- Iman Shumpert (35): 4 years, $40 million with Cavaliers

- Arron Afflalo (39): 2 years, $16 million with Knicks

- Corey Brewer (45): 3 years, $24 million with Rockets

- Marco Belinelli (59): 3 years, $19 million with Kings