Mchale vs Kahn

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Once again, The thread asks "BETTER OR WORSE"!

KG was good, but THE ONLY REASON Hudson was here was because he made pals with KG and KG insisted. And SURROUNDED BY REGGIE SLATER!!?!??!?!? Slater played 807 minutes TOTAL over two seasons. Kind of like your Woods example.

I have as many problems with Mchale as the next guy, but he was better than Kahn, and IIIIIFFFF he wasn't, it wasn't because of Loren effing Woods and Reggie effing Slater.

I don't know you, but for your own sake, and partly for the sake of the rest of us, go do something else. You sound absolutely miserable, and if the only way to cure that is the GM of the team you follow batting 1.000, well, that's not going to happen, so save yourself the grief.
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Mchale didn't do so bad in the draft
2005 - Picked McCants - Should have picked Granger (McCants did have a year averageing 15pts on 45% shooting)
2006 - Picked Roy and then traded him for Foye. Should have kept Roy or drafted Gay (Roy is the one only one not still in the league)
2007 - Picked Corey Brewer - Should have drafted Noah (both still in the league)

Kahn was absolutely brutal.
Flynn isn't and Wes shouldn't be in the league.
He didn't trade down when we shouldn't have picked DWill.
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bleedspeed177 wrote:Mchale didn't do so bad in the draft
2005 - Picked McCants - Should have picked Granger (McCants did have a year averageing 15pts on 45% shooting)
2006 - Picked Roy and then traded him for Foye. Should have kept Roy or drafted Gay (Roy is the one only one not still in the league)
2007 - Picked Corey Brewer - Should have drafted Noah (both still in the league)

Kahn was absolutely brutal.
Flynn isn't and Wes shouldn't be in the league.
He didn't trade down when we shouldn't have picked DWill.



1. Believe me, I totally get not liking the Foye pick. But wanting Roy or Hetero instead I will never understand. It's easy to say "Well, Roy has been amnestized". Well, that money has to come from somewhere.

2. In Kahn's defense, I don't remember a line of teams wanting to swap picks with MIN in that draft. He floated as many rumors as he could to create a market (Lamar Odom? Really?) for that pick, it just didn't happen.
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I'm going to go with worse. McHale had a bad habit of not cutting his losses. He would have hung onto his guys stubbornly past their expiration date like he did with Wally. We would probably be stuck with a couple monster contracts in Randy Foye and Mike Miller. Why should we assume that McHale would have drafted Curry? He could have just as easily taken Jordan Hill.
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Phenom's_Revenge wrote:I'm going to go with worse. McHale had a bad habit of not cutting his losses. He would have hung onto his guys stubbornly past their expiration date like he did with Wally. We would probably be stuck with a couple monster contracts in Randy Foye and Mike Miller. Why should we assume that McHale would have drafted Curry? He could have just as easily taken Jordan Hill.


I agree with this sentiment. He was so reluctant to deal. Plus near the end of his tenure he had pretty much given up on running the team.
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thedoper wrote:
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:I'm going to go with worse. McHale had a bad habit of not cutting his losses. He would have hung onto his guys stubbornly past their expiration date like he did with Wally. We would probably be stuck with a couple monster contracts in Randy Foye and Mike Miller. Why should we assume that McHale would have drafted Curry? He could have just as easily taken Jordan Hill.


I agree with this sentiment. He was so reluctant to deal. Plus near the end of his tenure he had pretty much given up on running the team.



I absolutely LOVE this line of thinking. There is no attempt to say that McHale's decisions would have been as dumb as Khan's..........the argument looks like McHale's decisions might have been less dumb, (it is hard to argue that anyone would make worse decisions than Khan), but that McHale would have stuck with less dumb decisions for a longer time.

By making less dumb decisions and sticking with them for a longer time, then over the long run, we are worse, because we are stuck in some type of mediocrity purgatory. Where Khan's decisions were bad enough to get him fired, so we were actually able to move forward with someone that could get us better.

I admire the high level strategic thinking here........Maybe that was Khan's plan all along.......to make a bunch of bad decisions, so that he gets fired, so that the Wolves get better quicker.

........that concept is sort of hard to wrap your head around..........
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It is simple. Someone had to gut the team so we could get high draft picks and salary cap space again. That was Kahn's first priority in his job and he did that. Yes he made some bad draft picks. But he also gave us the financial flexibility to build the team we have now. McHale would have kept us winning 35 games for eternity thinking that we were somehow going to get over the hump.
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McHale should stick to coaching players that are given to him. Kahn should try and to get a gig doing commercials for QTips or some other ear cleaning device.
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No excuse for rambis, but getting adelman cancels it out
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alexftbl8181 wrote:No excuse for rambis, but getting adelman cancels it out



I like Adelman also but, Adelman is not as comparatively good and Rambis was comparatively bad.
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