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Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:43 am I get the Denver connection to Bones, but having watched him play, there is no way he would get playing time on the best team in the West.

I tend to agree with Carlos that we're probably just going to roll with what we have. If there is a cheap way to add a shooter or PG depth, I'm all for it, but I wouldn't be willing to give up a 2nd rounder for Bones.

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:43 am I get the Denver connection to Bones, but having watched him play, there is no way he would get playing time on the best team in the West.

I tend to agree with Carlos that we're probably just going to roll with what we have. If there is a cheap way to add a shooter or PG depth, I'm all for it, but I wouldn't be willing to give up a 2nd rounder for Bones.

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:04 pm

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:43 am I get the Denver connection to Bones, but having watched him play, there is no way he would get playing time on the best team in the West.

I tend to agree with Carlos that we're probably just going to roll with what we have. If there is a cheap way to add a shooter or PG depth, I'm all for it, but I wouldn't be willing to give up a 2nd rounder for Bones.

Bones is a PG and a much better ball-handler than Shake. When you use the trade fandango trade machine Bones is listed as a secondary ball-handler while Shake is listed as a “stationary shooter.” If we’re looking for a backup PG, Bones can fill that role while MIlton absolutely cannot. Meanwhile, Bones and Shake are about equal as three-point shooters. So Bones would fill a need that Milton can’t fill (backup PG) without any drop-off in three-point ability. Bones is also younger than Shake and likely has untapped upside. I don’t love Bones - not by any stretch. But I think he could potentially help us this season and that would be worth a second-round pick.

I’d prefer, however, to trade Milton and Moore for Delon Wright. That would be a smart move in my view.

Monster wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:36 am

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:04 pm

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:43 am I get the Denver connection to Bones, but having watched him play, there is no way he would get playing time on the best team in the West.

I tend to agree with Carlos that we're probably just going to roll with what we have. If there is a cheap way to add a shooter or PG depth, I'm all for it, but I wouldn't be willing to give up a 2nd rounder for Bones.

Bones is a PG and a much better ball-handler than Shake. When you use the trade fandango trade machine Bones is listed as a secondary ball-handler while Shake is listed as a “stationary shooter.” If we’re looking for a backup PG, Bones can fill that role while MIlton absolutely cannot. Meanwhile, Bones and Shake are about equal as three-point shooters. So Bones would fill a need that Milton can’t fill (backup PG) without any drop-off in three-point ability. Bones is also younger than Shake and likely has untapped upside. I don’t love Bones - not by any stretch. But I think he could potentially help us this season and that would be worth a second-round pick.

I’d prefer, however, to trade Milton and Moore for Delon Wright. That would be a smart move in my view.

If you are worried about salary past this season then you absolutely do not trade anything for Bones Hyland. His salary next season is 4.1 million. He is very inefficient and while I would be happy to sign him if he got bought out I don’t see a reason to trade anything for him. Now if the Wolves could move him for Moore then that would help with the salary aspect next season. If we want an inefficient playmaking guard there is probably one or 10 of them in the G-league.

I’ll add here that Shake (while it’s mostly been in garbage time) has seemed to find himself a little as a scorer. He has a decent track record of being a worthwhile guard. He might still help this team yet this year but the good news is that they can move on from him after this season with no guaranteed salary for next season unlike Bones. If you compare his career with Bones the only thing that sticks out is Bones volume of 3’s. That’s both good and bad as Bones seems like a guy that will shoot you in or out of a game. Shake has struggled this year but he also hasn’t just fired up a ton of shots when he shouldn’t be. Bones might still have a worthwhile NBA career ahead but I’s rather acquire him for nothing and pay him basically nothing to find out.

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:31 pm

Monster wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:36 am

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:04 pm

Bones is a PG and a much better ball-handler than Shake. When you use the trade fandango trade machine Bones is listed as a secondary ball-handler while Shake is listed as a “stationary shooter.” If we’re looking for a backup PG, Bones can fill that role while MIlton absolutely cannot. Meanwhile, Bones and Shake are about equal as three-point shooters. So Bones would fill a need that Milton can’t fill (backup PG) without any drop-off in three-point ability. Bones is also younger than Shake and likely has untapped upside. I don’t love Bones - not by any stretch. But I think he could potentially help us this season and that would be worth a second-round pick.

I’d prefer, however, to trade Milton and Moore for Delon Wright. That would be a smart move in my view.

If you are worried about salary past this season then you absolutely do not trade anything for Bones Hyland. His salary next season is 4.1 million. He is very inefficient and while I would be happy to sign him if he got bought out I don’t see a reason to trade anything for him. Now if the Wolves could move him for Moore then that would help with the salary aspect next season. If we want an inefficient playmaking guard there is probably one or 10 of them in the G-league.

I’ll add here that Shake (while it’s mostly been in garbage time) has seemed to find himself a little as a scorer. He has a decent track record of being a worthwhile guard. He might still help this team yet this year but the good news is that they can move on from him after this season with no guaranteed salary for next season unlike Bones. If you compare his career with Bones the only thing that sticks out is Bones volume of 3’s. That’s both good and bad as Bones seems like a guy that will shoot you in or out of a game. Shake has struggled this year but he also hasn’t just fired up a ton of shots when he shouldn’t be. Bones might still have a worthwhile NBA career ahead but I’s rather acquire him for nothing and pay him basically nothing to find out.

Bones’ salary doesn’t really matter. This team will be over the 2nd apron if they keep KAT, Rudy, Ant, Naz and Jaden regardless of whether the Wolves add Bones’ salary to the roster or not. Once we’re over the 2nd apron it doesn’t matter by how much.

Shake and Bones are very different players. Bones is a PG who can handle the ball. Shake is a SG who has limited ball-handling ability and can’t be expected to run the offense. I see two things this team could use. One is a solid backup PG. Another is reliable three-point marksman off the bench. Right now, Naz is the only offensive firepower we have coming off the bench and this team could really use another offensive shot-maker coming off the bench.

60WinTim wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:30 pm There is a lot of synergy that can be found with a trade based on KAT for Dejounte Murray.

Just sayin'...