Ant is going to work, what should he improve on?

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Coolbreeze44 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 1:27 pm Conditioning, conditioning, conditioning.

Sure he's in shape, but he's not in superstar play 40 minutes shape night after night. It catches up with him in the playoffs. He needs to take it to another level.
Better shape than Luka so it could certainly be worse.
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I don't think it needs to be ignored. I just think folks are over emphasizing its importance after watching Shai do it.

But even there, SGA didn't beat the Wolves because he foul baited. In fact the only game where it was a factor was game 1, the other wins he was just the best player on the floor
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AussieWolf3 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:14 pm I don't think it needs to be ignored. I just think folks are over emphasizing its importance after watching Shai do it.

But even there, SGA didn't beat the Wolves because he foul baited. In fact the only game where it was a factor was game 1, the other wins he was just the best player on the floor
Is that a result of the defenders trying to not put their hands on SGA so he got easier baskets though knowing if they put their hand out the ref is going to blow a foul. You can't play physical with SGA because he will draw the foul. There was that one play in game 2 I think where Jaden purposely steps back so SGA can't foul bait him and SGA steps on Jadens foot and flops.
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Yeah and it's a reasonable guess that the league will start taking action to prevent that kind of action.
And tbh I just don't ever want to watch Ant throw himself on the floor like that... ever.

He needs to be more mature towards the refs and stop playing victim all the time, that will likely help a lot. He also needs to be better putting defenders off balance and out of position, so they either have to play off him or foul him.

Those are real skills that don't comprise how he play ball
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AussieWolf3 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:45 pm Yeah and it's a reasonable guess that the league will start taking action to prevent that kind of action.
And tbh I just don't ever want to watch Ant throw himself on the floor like that... ever.

He needs to be more mature towards the refs and stop playing victim all the time, that will likely help a lot. He also needs to be better putting defenders off balance and out of position, so they either have to play off him or foul him.

Those are real skills that don't comprise how he play ball
I agree with the foul grifting/grifters, I see the league cracking down on it even more next year with how people get sick of watching it. The flopping too. That shouldn't be a priority for Ants work.

That's why I said don't work on "drawing fouls", I doubt it will work anyways. But that doesn't mean you can't still create body contact, pop back and shoot the open J. If you draw a foul so be it, but the goal should be to make an open shot.
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I think conditioning is the biggest issue for Ant. He shouldn't be huffing and puffing in the 4th quarter of games. He needs to be the best conditioned guy on the court.
Speeding up his decisions as to not "dance " before a 3, everyone knows it is coming.
Looking to push the ball up the court when he gets a rebound, see conditioning above. I would love to see Ant and Jaden playing with Shannon pushing the ball up so that the opponents defense doesn't get set. They don't have to shoot with 20 on the clock, but force the defense to start of on the wrong foot would really help with easy baskets. We don't need to be Loyola Marymount, but damn, move the ball up!
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DNatagal wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:26 pm I think conditioning is the biggest issue for Ant. He shouldn't be huffing and puffing in the 4th quarter of games. He needs to be the best conditioned guy on the court.
Speeding up his decisions as to not "dance " before a 3, everyone knows it is coming.
Looking to push the ball up the court when he gets a rebound, see conditioning above. I would love to see Ant and Jaden playing with Shannon pushing the ball up so that the opponents defense doesn't get set. They don't have to shoot with 20 on the clock, but force the defense to start of on the wrong foot would really help with easy baskets. We don't need to be Loyola Marymount, but damn, move the ball up!
I agree on the ball pushing. I think playing more with TJ will rub off on Ant. TJ just hits a crack immediately. No thinking needed, he just sees a crack and smashes it. :lol: He reminds me of a bigger Westbrook a little bit who can also shoot the 3.
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Wolvesfan21 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:03 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:45 pm Yeah and it's a reasonable guess that the league will start taking action to prevent that kind of action.
And tbh I just don't ever want to watch Ant throw himself on the floor like that... ever.

He needs to be more mature towards the refs and stop playing victim all the time, that will likely help a lot. He also needs to be better putting defenders off balance and out of position, so they either have to play off him or foul him.

Those are real skills that don't comprise how he play ball
I agree with the foul grifting/grifters, I see the league cracking down on it even more next year with how people get sick of watching it. The flopping too. That shouldn't be a priority for Ants work.

That's why I said don't work on "drawing fouls", I doubt it will work anyways. But that doesn't mean you can't still create body contact, pop back and shoot the open J. If you draw a foul so be it, but the goal should be to make an open shot.
When I refer to improve on drawing fouls, I don’t mean flopping. Ant can and should do a better job of drawing and then finishing through contact.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:32 pm
Wolvesfan21 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:03 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 4:45 pm Yeah and it's a reasonable guess that the league will start taking action to prevent that kind of action.
And tbh I just don't ever want to watch Ant throw himself on the floor like that... ever.

He needs to be more mature towards the refs and stop playing victim all the time, that will likely help a lot. He also needs to be better putting defenders off balance and out of position, so they either have to play off him or foul him.

Those are real skills that don't comprise how he play ball
I agree with the foul grifting/grifters, I see the league cracking down on it even more next year with how people get sick of watching it. The flopping too. That shouldn't be a priority for Ants work.

That's why I said don't work on "drawing fouls", I doubt it will work anyways. But that doesn't mean you can't still create body contact, pop back and shoot the open J. If you draw a foul so be it, but the goal should be to make an open shot.
When I refer to improve on drawing fouls, I don’t mean flopping. Ant can and should do a better job of drawing and then finishing through contact.
That we agree on. I think some of us wouldn't mind seeing him flop though. I don't. Yes create contact and finish. If you draw the whistle then cool, but the goal of drawing fouls I don't think is a good idea. You cannot control the whistle. Make the bucket.
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DNatagal wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:26 pm I think conditioning is the biggest issue for Ant. He shouldn't be huffing and puffing in the 4th quarter of games. He needs to be the best conditioned guy on the court.
Speeding up his decisions as to not "dance " before a 3, everyone knows it is coming.
Looking to push the ball up the court when he gets a rebound, see conditioning above. I would love to see Ant and Jaden playing with Shannon pushing the ball up so that the opponents defense doesn't get set. They don't have to shoot with 20 on the clock, but force the defense to start of on the wrong foot would really help with easy baskets. We don't need to be Loyola Marymount, but damn, move the ball up!
Yes, I agree that that Ant and Jaden would both benefit playing with TSJ. This team needs more space and pace in its offense. Part of more pace is getting up the court and attacking more quickly. By pace I also mean moving the ball more quickly in the half court with more movement and cutting off the ball and less hold time by individual players. As our elite scoring star, Ant will always have somewhat sticky fingers but we can’t have another player like Randle on the court who holds the ball. More space and pace on offensive, as well an elite ballhandler in the backcourt with Ant will help him a lot.
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