Next Up: The Options

[WildWolf2813]

Although I do think if a trade were constructed that sent DDV out, that would open the door to bringing back NAW. It would also likely need either NAZ or Randle moving on…

Im assuming NAW would be happy to stay so if the Wolves moved Donte l, it would open the door. Obviously you don't move Donte without that agreement in place.

If the NAW market gets hot enough, I wonder what the Wolves could get to facilitate it.

I saw a Houston fan on realgm said they wouldn't mind doing a sign and trade for NAW and send over Cam Whitmore since it sounds like they are going to move him.

Sounds like punishment.

[60WinTim]

The NAZ option is resolved! He declined the option, but agreed to a new contract. That's one item off the "Next Up" list to check off.

Sunday is the next BIG day where we get the Randle player option decision, along with a few others. I have said I am not a fan of the Randle/NAZ tandem. With NAZ in the fold, my hope is Randle does not agree to an extension and merely picks up his option. Then he becomes a trade chip!

[Q-is-here]

The NAZ option is resolved! He declined the option, but agreed to a new contract. That's one item off the "Next Up" list to check off.

Sunday is the next BIG day where we get the Randle player option decision, along with a few others. I have said I am not a fan of the Randle/NAZ tandem. With NAZ in the fold, my hope is Randle does not agree to an extension and merely picks up his option. Then he becomes a trade chip!

A trade chip that may not get traded and just plays out the string. That's a possibility at least.

[Lipoli390]

The NAZ option is resolved! He declined the option, but agreed to a new contract. That's one item off the "Next Up" list to check off.

Sunday is the next BIG day where we get the Randle player option decision, along with a few others. I have said I am not a fan of the Randle/NAZ tandem. With NAZ in the fold, my hope is Randle does not agree to an extension and merely picks up his option. Then he becomes a trade chip!

A trade chip that may not get traded and just plays out the string. That's a possibility at least.

I share Tim’s hope. If Randle opts in, I don’t think it’s imperative that we trade him. But I think Randle on a one-year deal at $31M would be of interest to a number of teams with playoff aspirations.

[Monster]

I think the Naz deal gives Randle some clarity. He knows they have committed to Naz. What does he want to do? To maximize his earnings he might be best to opt in this year and be a FA next year. If you are the Wolves that's not a bad option. Naz might be cool with not starting another year if Randle opted in for another season. On the other hand maybe Randle even if he likes it here will look for another opportunity to stay somewhere long term. He might also realize with his representation that no team will be hitching their wagon to him for more than 3 years and so he might be cool staying with the Wolves on a smaller deal. Randle as a 6th man would be pretty awesome. Honestly I think a great outcome would be him opting in and play out another season.

I mean if the Wolves can trade him for value great. I have no clue what kind of value he has. I think you have to get something really valuable for him. He was the 2nd best player for the Wolves in the playoffs despite his flaws. You can't just dump him for some depth guys.

I agree that him opting in he might be more appealing on that 1 year deal than on a longer term one...unless he signs a 3ish year deal for like 25 million per. I mean if Naz is worth 20ish million I don't know how Randle isn't worth at least 25 million. He is a unique player but he is a good player.

[Lipoli390]

I think the Naz deal gives Randle some clarity. He knows they have committed to Naz. What does he want to do? To maximize his earnings he might be best to opt in this year and be a FA next year. If you are the Wolves that's not a bad option. Naz might be cool with not starting another year if Randle opted in for another season. On the other hand maybe Randle even if he likes it here will look for another opportunity to stay somewhere long term. He might also realize with his representation that no team will be hitching their wagon to him for more than 3 years and so he might be cool staying with the Wolves on a smaller deal. Randle as a 6th man would be pretty awesome. Honestly I think a great outcome would be him opting in and play out another season.

I mean if the Wolves can trade him for value great. I have no clue what kind of value he has. I think you have to get something really valuable for him. He was the 2nd best player for the Wolves in the playoffs despite his flaws. You can't just dump him for some depth guys.

I agree that him opting in he might be more appealing on that 1 year deal than on a longer term one...unless he signs a 3ish year deal for like 25 million per. I mean if Naz is worth 20ish million I don't know how Randle isn't worth at least 25 million. He is a unique player but he is a good player.

I’d love to see Randle exercise his option. And I agree we shouldn’t just dump him if he doesn’t. But it’s important to keep in mind that Randle can become a free agent and walk without any compensation in return. So if he chooses free agency, we might be in a position to take pennies on the dollar in return assets via sign-and-trade rather than get nothing if Ju just signs elsewhere as a free agent.

I think Randle is going to exercise his option and take his chances next summer when more teams will have lots of cap space. But I wouldn’t bet any real money on that happening. I wouldn’t be surprised if we extended Randle on a 3 or 4 year deal and I wouldn’t be surprised if we do a sign-and-trade. I don’t think our front office will just let him walk. But beware that a sign-and-trade might not bring back assets commensurate with Randle’s value as a player because of the need for Randle’s assent and the leverage he has to just walk.

[Monster]

I think the Naz deal gives Randle some clarity. He knows they have committed to Naz. What does he want to do? To maximize his earnings he might be best to opt in this year and be a FA next year. If you are the Wolves that's not a bad option. Naz might be cool with not starting another year if Randle opted in for another season. On the other hand maybe Randle even if he likes it here will look for another opportunity to stay somewhere long term. He might also realize with his representation that no team will be hitching their wagon to him for more than 3 years and so he might be cool staying with the Wolves on a smaller deal. Randle as a 6th man would be pretty awesome. Honestly I think a great outcome would be him opting in and play out another season.

I mean if the Wolves can trade him for value great. I have no clue what kind of value he has. I think you have to get something really valuable for him. He was the 2nd best player for the Wolves in the playoffs despite his flaws. You can't just dump him for some depth guys.

I agree that him opting in he might be more appealing on that 1 year deal than on a longer term one...unless he signs a 3ish year deal for like 25 million per. I mean if Naz is worth 20ish million I don't know how Randle isn't worth at least 25 million. He is a unique player but he is a good player.

I’d love to see Randle exercise his option. And I agree we shouldn’t just dump him if he doesn’t. But it’s important to keep in mind that Randle can become a free agent and walk without any compensation in return. So if he chooses free agency, we might be in a position to take pennies on the dollar in return assets via sign-and-trade rather than get nothing if Ju just signs elsewhere as a free agent.

I think Randle is going to exercise his option and take his chances next summer when more teams will have lots of cap space. But I wouldn’t bet any real money on that happening. I wouldn’t be surprised if we extended Randle on a 3 or 4 year deal and I wouldn’t be surprised if we do a sign-and-trade. I don’t think our front office will just let him walk. But beware that a sign-and-trade might not bring back assets commensurate with Randle’s value as a player because of the need for Randle’s assent and the leverage he has to just walk.

That's a fair breakdown.

Personally if Randle walks for nothing this year or next I'm totally cool with that. I'd rather him walk for nothing and have the flexibility in roster rebuilding than make a trade where I'm paying for guys that are really just depth guys. I mean come on how much do you think we are gonna be paying Capala to maybe play like may 10 mins a game if Rudy is healthy? I'm down with trying to get some value for Randle in a deal but I think you have to actually get something pretty good because I'll say it again and will probably say it multiple times...he is a good player. If you believe so much in Naz then he should be capable of playing some minutes at center.

Personally if we are trying to get value for someone it might make more sense to see what we could get for Donte. I would not be shocked if they could get some decent draft asset and no salary coming back and then they could resign NAW. I'm not saying they should do that but I think it should be explored here just as much as considering getting some sort of value for Randle.

This is why I like where the Wolves are right now. They have some tough decisions but they also have some options of players they could move or get value from. They might be able to get some value for NAW in a sign and trade so that might be the way to go too. Connelly has shown some ability to move guys for value and or understand when to move on from guys. What player has he let go from the Wolves that we are like damn if only he had kept that guy? I guess maybe Kessler? Some people don't even think he picked him anyway!

[Lipoli390]

I think the Naz deal gives Randle some clarity. He knows they have committed to Naz. What does he want to do? To maximize his earnings he might be best to opt in this year and be a FA next year. If you are the Wolves that's not a bad option. Naz might be cool with not starting another year if Randle opted in for another season. On the other hand maybe Randle even if he likes it here will look for another opportunity to stay somewhere long term. He might also realize with his representation that no team will be hitching their wagon to him for more than 3 years and so he might be cool staying with the Wolves on a smaller deal. Randle as a 6th man would be pretty awesome. Honestly I think a great outcome would be him opting in and play out another season.

I mean if the Wolves can trade him for value great. I have no clue what kind of value he has. I think you have to get something really valuable for him. He was the 2nd best player for the Wolves in the playoffs despite his flaws. You can't just dump him for some depth guys.

I agree that him opting in he might be more appealing on that 1 year deal than on a longer term one...unless he signs a 3ish year deal for like 25 million per. I mean if Naz is worth 20ish million I don't know how Randle isn't worth at least 25 million. He is a unique player but he is a good player.

I’d love to see Randle exercise his option. And I agree we shouldn’t just dump him if he doesn’t. But it’s important to keep in mind that Randle can become a free agent and walk without any compensation in return. So if he chooses free agency, we might be in a position to take pennies on the dollar in return assets via sign-and-trade rather than get nothing if Ju just signs elsewhere as a free agent.

I think Randle is going to exercise his option and take his chances next summer when more teams will have lots of cap space. But I wouldn’t bet any real money on that happening. I wouldn’t be surprised if we extended Randle on a 3 or 4 year deal and I wouldn’t be surprised if we do a sign-and-trade. I don’t think our front office will just let him walk. But beware that a sign-and-trade might not bring back assets commensurate with Randle’s value as a player because of the need for Randle’s assent and the leverage he has to just walk.

That's a fair breakdown.

Personally if Randle walks for nothing this year or next I'm totally cool with that. I'd rather him walk for nothing and have the flexibility in roster rebuilding than make a trade where I'm paying for guys that are really just depth guys. I mean come on how much do you think we are gonna be paying Capala to maybe play like may 10 mins a game if Rudy is healthy? I'm down with trying to get some value for Randle in a deal but I think you have to actually get something pretty good because I'll say it again and will probably say it multiple times...he is a good player. If you believe so much in Naz then he should be capable of playing some minutes at center.

Personally if we are trying to get value for someone it might make more sense to see what we could get for Donte. I would not be shocked if they could get some decent draft asset and no salary coming back and then they could resign NAW. I'm not saying they should do that but I think it should be explored here just as much as considering getting some sort of value for Randle.

This is why I like where the Wolves are right now. They have some tough decisions but they also have some options of players they could move or get value from. They might be able to get some value for NAW in a sign and trade so that might be the way to go too. Connelly has shown some ability to move guys for value and or understand when to move on from guys. What player has he let go from the Wolves that we are like damn if only he had kept that guy? I guess maybe Kessler? Some people don't even think he picked him anyway!

Good points, Monster. I still can’t believe we had Kessler and lost him! . Maybe we should trade Jaden to get him back. lol.

[Monster]

As teams build their rosters over time one of the things that can sidetracked a team is ended up with players with bad contracts. When players come off rookie deals or outperform their last contract like NAW can you sign them to the right amount? Some people are worried about Naz deal which is fair to consider.

Right now the only contract the Wolves have that has a player that probably isn't worth market Value is Conley for over 10 million this year. It's not a particularly big deal because he is still worth at least 5million and it's an expiring contract. He isn't going anywhere but if the Wolves were looking to move that deal it would be a nice matching salalry and there would probbaly be teams happy enough to end up with a vet like Conley. When Conley signed that 2 year extensioni think it's clear he could have gotten more as a FA. Last year even with a drop off he was still a very worthwhile player.

I think one of Connelly's strengths is signing players to deals that are at the very least market value. Let's see what this off-season brings and compare those deals to Naz. Of course what might make his deal look good is 2026 FA when there will be lots of teams with money. That's also what makes the Randle situation interesting.

[Lipoli390]

As teams build their rosters over time one of the things that can sidetracked a team is ended up with players with bad contracts. When players come off rookie deals or outperform their last contract like NAW can you sign them to the right amount? Some people are worried about Naz deal which is fair to consider.

Right now the only contract the Wolves have that has a player that probably isn't worth market Value is Conley for over 10 million this year. It's not a particularly big deal because he is still worth at least 5million and it's an expiring contract. He isn't going anywhere but if the Wolves were looking to move that deal it would be a nice matching salalry and there would probbaly be teams happy enough to end up with a vet like Conley. When Conley signed that 2 year extensioni think it's clear he could have gotten more as a FA. Last year even with a drop off he was still a very worthwhile player.

I think one of Connelly's strengths is signing players to deals that are at the very least market value. Let's see what this off-season brings and compare those deals to Naz. Of course what might make his deal look good is 2026 FA when there will be lots of teams with money. That's also what makes the Randle situation interesting.

Great point, Monster, about locking up Naz before next summer when we’ll likely see a free agent frenzy with lots of cap space flying around. Looking at it through that lens, I’m leaning towards thinking that the Wolves will sign Randle to a multi-year deal unless they can get a really good return in a sign-and-trade.