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Re: Kyler Murray era ends? (Vikings at Bears)
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2026 12:42 pm
by Wolvesfan21
Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:38 am
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:50 am
Monster wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 4:38 pm
Brad Johnson wasn't elite but he was at least a good starter. Foles quite frankly just played out of his mind for the playoffs that year. Was he mediocre overall for his career? Yes but that playoffs he wasn't.
Jeff Hostetler played in a different era and had only a handful of starts before that playoff run. I had thought he had played a little more than he did but...that was a long time ago and I was a kid when that Superbowl happened. Lol
I'm not really look at this team as a Superbowl team anyways. I was hoping for some success from young players and some positives at the QB position regardless of who ended up being healthy enough to take snaps. Hopefully we will see some positives from Murray although we should maybe tempter expectations coming off an injury and likely to have some rust from that and not having played more than a handful of snaps in this offense.
Doug Williams was another backup if I remember right who won it all. I think it was more common pre Brady, where elite run games and elite defenses were bigger factors then high flying passing attacks. Now a days with the rules and everything, passing and QB's certainly are more important. Not that you can't win with a Nick Foles or washed up Peyton, it's maybe a bit more rare.
Doug Williams was a bit of an interesting situation. He started every game he played for tampa while he was there and left due to a contract dispute where he was lowballed by Tampa. I looked up up he was a .500 record QB with Tamba which seems kinda impressive considering I remember that team being bad my whole childhood. I used to joke about if you want to win a Superbowl just get a former Tampa QB.
Thats right, he did play for Tampa, I forgot about that. I was young too during that time and yes, TB was a joke of a franchise! haha
Re: Kyler Murray era ends? (Vikings at Bears)
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2026 8:26 am
by Monster
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 12:42 pm
Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:38 am
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:50 am
Doug Williams was another backup if I remember right who won it all. I think it was more common pre Brady, where elite run games and elite defenses were bigger factors then high flying passing attacks. Now a days with the rules and everything, passing and QB's certainly are more important. Not that you can't win with a Nick Foles or washed up Peyton, it's maybe a bit more rare.
Doug Williams was a bit of an interesting situation. He started every game he played for tampa while he was there and left due to a contract dispute where he was lowballed by Tampa. I looked up up he was a .500 record QB with Tamba which seems kinda impressive considering I remember that team being bad my whole childhood. I used to joke about if you want to win a Superbowl just get a former Tampa QB.
Thats right, he did play for Tampa, I forgot about that. I was young too during that time and yes, TB was a joke of a franchise! haha
The sad thing was that Tampa usually has a few good fun players to watch. They weren't completely devoid of talent. It was both fun and sad watching a young Steve Young run for his freaking life out there.
Re: Kyler Murray era ends? (Vikings at Bears)
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2026 11:46 am
by Wolvesfan21
Monster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 8:26 am
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 12:42 pm
Monster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:38 am
Doug Williams was a bit of an interesting situation. He started every game he played for tampa while he was there and left due to a contract dispute where he was lowballed by Tampa. I looked up up he was a .500 record QB with Tamba which seems kinda impressive considering I remember that team being bad my whole childhood. I used to joke about if you want to win a Superbowl just get a former Tampa QB.
Thats right, he did play for Tampa, I forgot about that. I was young too during that time and yes, TB was a joke of a franchise! haha
The sad thing was that Tampa usually has a few good fun players to watch. They weren't completely devoid of talent. It was both fun and sad watching a young Steve Young run for his freaking life out there.
What is REALLY sad is Tampa won a SB before us and did it TWICE!!! As a child in the 80's and 90's making fun of them only makes us look 100 times more pathetic now. We're the real joke.
Re: Kyler Murray era ends? (Vikings at Bears)
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2026 4:49 pm
by Monster
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 11:46 am
Monster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 8:26 am
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 12:42 pm
Thats right, he did play for Tampa, I forgot about that. I was young too during that time and yes, TB was a joke of a franchise! haha
The sad thing was that Tampa usually has a few good fun players to watch. They weren't completely devoid of talent. It was both fun and sad watching a young Steve Young run for his freaking life out there.
What is REALLY sad is Tampa won a SB before us and did it TWICE!!! As a child in the 80's and 90's making fun of them only makes us look 100 times more pathetic now. We're the real joke.
If all you care about is winning a Superbowl then I guess.
Re: Kyler Murray era ends? (Vikings at Bears)
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2026 5:08 am
by Wolvesfan21
Monster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 4:49 pm
Wolvesfan21 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 11:46 am
Monster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 8:26 am
The sad thing was that Tampa usually has a few good fun players to watch. They weren't completely devoid of talent. It was both fun and sad watching a young Steve Young run for his freaking life out there.
What is REALLY sad is Tampa won a SB before us and did it TWICE!!! As a child in the 80's and 90's making fun of them only makes us look 100 times more pathetic now. We're the real joke.
If all you care about is winning a Superbowl then I guess.
For me yeah, being "good" most of the time is OK. But really, I'd take 20 years of crap and trade it for one SB.