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bleedspeed177 wrote:Khans I agree with you. I would draft 3 if they makes sense and you think they have a shot to start next year. I would Sign a LT, move Boone to RT, draft 3 rookies, and hope 2 are good enough to start. Birk would play where ever we need someone.

Draft a RB and 4 defensive players. This is supposed to be a strong draft for DB's and you should take one or 2 along with a DL and LB.

I don't believe drafting a RB is necessary. Bishop Sankey can handle all of Asiata's rep and most of Peterson's, and other teams will be cutting guys, so they can either bring pack AP on a (greatly) reduced contract or a guy someone else cuts.

WHEN this team walks away from AP, they will have $41m in cap room before any other cuts, and other than getting 3 new OT's, they are in pretty good shape.

And I can see them walking away from Boone. Is Boone good, or do the fans think he is because he keeps saying he is?

I think you draft RB if there is value there. I have heard this is a strong CB, RB, and TE draft. Weak at OL. Last year was a strong DT draft and we drafted 0. Thank god we got Beavers.

I'm not sure Sanky is a guy I would count on but Jason's point is well taken. The Super Bowl had non-high draft pick RBs doing a lot of good stuff. You can pick value for guys outside of the top couple of rounds for sure.

I agree you have to take some defensive players. The Vikings have 2 FA at CB in Newman and Captain and if both of those guys left...man they would be down to basically 3 CBs and Alexander hasn't proven anything yet. I'm intruiged by Toby Johnson. That dude is a house. Also a I was looking back at some draft profiles (Toby had none) and Shamar Stephan actually had a 2nd round grade by NFL.com. It certainly was a good year for DTs. I'm sure Vincent Valentine is kicking himself for Leaving Nebraska early last year getting drafted in the 3rd round making a few hundred thousand bucks and winning a Super Bowl. Funny how it works out for some guys that alot of people think made the wrong decision.

JasonIsDaMan wrote:

bleedspeed177 wrote:Khans I agree with you. I would draft 3 if they makes sense and you think they have a shot to start next year. I would Sign a LT, move Boone to RT, draft 3 rookies, and hope 2 are good enough to start. Birk would play where ever we need someone.

Draft a RB and 4 defensive players. This is supposed to be a strong draft for DB's and you should take one or 2 along with a DL and LB.

I don't believe drafting a RB is necessary. Bishop Sankey can handle all of Asiata's rep and most of Peterson's, and other teams will be cutting guys, so they can either bring pack AP on a (greatly) reduced contract or a guy someone else cuts.

WHEN this team walks away from AP, they will have $41m in cap room before any other cuts, and other than getting 3 new OT's, they are in pretty good shape.

And I can see them walking away from Boone. Is Boone good, or do the fans think he is because he keeps saying he is?

Lol cutting Boone would mean we would need to find 4 starting lineman in the off season. Has a line ever been successful after a turnover of that magnitude in 1 off-season? Also, Bishop Sankey is not good. He doesn't replace anything effectively. It's a good RB draft. There are multiple guys who will be better options than Sankey to take.

RB in the draft that should be available for us in round 2 or later.
http://www.startribune.com/closing-the-door-on-peterson-could-open-another-one-to-something-better-at-this-point/414084383/

Here are six backs the Vikings could be considering in the second, third and fourth rounds:

Alvin Kamara, Tennessee, 5-10, 215: Good size, strength, hands and experience in the passing game as a slot guy and adequate pass protector. Had discipline issues at Alabama before leaving and spending at year at Hutchinson Community College. NFL.com has him going in the second round, 56th overall, about 10 spots below where the Vikings will select, pending a coin flip for positioning.

D'Onta Foreman, Texas, 6-1, 249: One of the country's most productive backs last year with 2,028 yards, a 6.3 average and 15 touchdowns. But he doesn't bring as much to the passing game. The Vikings do, however, value Jerick McKinnon as a third-down back with good hands. He can fill that role. But, still, it would be nice to have a primary back who's unpredictable in Shurmur's offense. Foreman is projected to go in the second or third round.

Curtis Samuel, Ohio State, 5-11, 197: This is the back that really intrigues me. To me, he looks like he could be a bigger version of Percy Harvin as a hybrid running back/receiver. He might go as high as the second or, who knows, the first round. But if he's still around later in the draft, I can see him fitting this offense because he has a variety of skills to match the running and passing games.

Wayne Gallman, Clemson, 6-0, 210: NFL.com has the Vikings taking Gallman in the fourth round. The son of a Marine, he's considered a tough, disciplined player. He ran for 1,527 yards two years ago and 1,002 and 15 touchdowns on fewer carries last year. He's known as a strong short-yardage force, which would help an offensive line in transition. Can he pass protect and add to the passing game is the question.

Jamaal Williams, BYU, 6-0, 211: A back the Vikings are believed to have interest in. He had a knee injury and a team suspension two years ago. He withdrew from school in 2015. Last year, he ran for 1,375 yards and 12 touchdowns despite missing three games.

Joe Mixon, Oklahoma, 6-1, 226: Yes, he's a character risk. And the Vikings might have already removed him from draft board because of that. He punched a female student in the face in 2014. So he comes with some uncomfortable domestic baggage for a team that experienced its share of that and more with Peterson in 2014. But NFL.com's Mike Mayock has Mixon as his fifth-highest back. What if Mixon tumbles through the draft and is sitting there at great value in the later rounds?

One thing that was interesting last season was the Vikings were reported to prefer a bigger back on their practice squad etc. I wonder if that will stay the same this year with Shurmer as the OC. I don't know or have any inklings I am just asking the question.

I like the idea of that Foreman or Samuel. I have always been a play strong D and ground and pound fan. If the back is not going to be hammer it type I would want someone that can line up wide and be very versatile.

End of the day you play to your teams talent. Part of being successful in the draft is picking players that fit your team.

bleedspeed177 wrote:I like the idea of that Foreman or Samuel. I have always been a play strong D and ground and pound fan. If the back is not going to be hammer it type I would want someone that can line up wide and be very versatile.

End of the day you play to your teams talent. Part of being successful in the draft is picking players that fit your team.

I agree with your post. Like you said ground and pound is ok unless it doesn't fit your team. Part of what is hard for me to say what they should do or shouldn't do at RB is that the line was Soooooooo bad blocking I think Barry sanders might have been the only successful RB behind that line and he would have had to work harder than he did back in the day with Detroit. They usually had at least 1 good olineman. I mean a couple years ago Asiata and McKinnon were good enough and that oline wasn't all that great either. This year it was pathetic. I'd be curious to know what the Vikings average of when their RBs got hit in relation to the line of scrimmage compared to their teams. It has to be a staggering number in comparison and Bradford is a better QB and the receivers are to most talented since Farve was here and Rice was healthy that one year.

I know the OL is horrible. I think it can be fixed faster then people expect if you have the right staff. I look at the Patriots and Packers as examples of teams that plug and play guys that are not top picks.

I also love the multi TE sets. It really screws with todays teams that play a lot of nickel. If you can throw out 2 TE's that are okay blockers and can line up outside you just can really make matchup problems for a defense. If Gronk didn't get hurt the Pats would have been so much tougher than they already were.