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Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:04 am
by apollotsg [enjin:6592798]
during the Bosnia war
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:25 am
by AbeVigodaLive
apollotsg wrote:during the Bosnia war
I once had a Bosnian or Croatian client. I don't remember which one... but I remember it was very important that I didn't mix it up.
Now granted... a person's nationality has never come up before. But Mr. Bossman went out of his way to tell me on this occasion and told me it was critical that I didn't screw it up. Why tell me at all? It would have never come up... but after he told me... it was all I could think about.
"Don't screw it up. Don't screw it up!"
Funny how our brains work.
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:52 am
by bleedspeed
apollotsg wrote:during the Bosnia war
Why were you there?
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:26 pm
by TAFKASP
apollotsg wrote:
This is an actual quote, there is audio of this - this is the advisor to President Nixon: "You want to know what this was really all about?" Ehrlichman asked, referring to the war on drugs. "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news." "Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did," he concluded, according to Baum.
There is literally no proof that the quote is legit and plenty of reason to believe it's made up. Funny the person who makes the claim didn't include in the book he was interviewing for and only shared more than a decade after the man died.
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:26 pm
by apollotsg [enjin:6592798]
bleedspeed177 wrote:apollotsg wrote:during the Bosnia war
Why were you there?
Thats an odd question - why do you ask?
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:34 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
Nixon seemed like a nice man and deserves more respect.
Or something.
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 pm
by apollotsg [enjin:6592798]
TheSP wrote:apollotsg wrote:
This is an actual quote, there is audio of this - this is the advisor to President Nixon: "You want to know what this was really all about?" Ehrlichman asked, referring to the war on drugs. "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news." "Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did," he concluded, according to Baum.
There is literally no proof that the quote is legit and plenty of reason to believe it's made up. Funny the person who makes the claim didn't include in the book he was interviewing for and only shared more than a decade after the man died.
Come on, really? Its a lie? Let's just pretend then I guess for a second - what if it's actually true?
Next you will say the CIA did not supply crack to the CA black community
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:48 pm
by thedoper
TheSP wrote:apollotsg wrote:
This is an actual quote, there is audio of this - this is the advisor to President Nixon: "You want to know what this was really all about?" Ehrlichman asked, referring to the war on drugs. "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news." "Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did," he concluded, according to Baum.
There is literally no proof that the quote is legit and plenty of reason to believe it's made up. Funny the person who makes the claim didn't include in the book he was interviewing for and only shared more than a decade after the man died.
The quote certainly fits his racist profile. Nixon on tape which is one of many quotes about Jews:
"The Jews are born spies. You notice how many of them are? They're just in it up to their necks."
Also this gem.
"The Jews are just a very aggressive and abrasive and obnoxious personality."
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:46 pm
by bleedspeed
apollotsg wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:apollotsg wrote:during the Bosnia war
Why were you there?
Thats an odd question - why do you ask?
Sorry if it comes across that way. I was just curious if you served in the Military or another capacity.
Re: OT - Making Sense of Tragedy
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:53 pm
by Monster
bleedspeed177 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:
We've come a long way as a society. An incredibly long way. But racial issues remain a common problem in our country... that continues to divide us to this day.
Hopefully, someday we don't think about race and color.
A few months ago my 10-year-old adopted daughter asked me if she was American. Her sister (my step daughter) who is half Caucasian and half Korean said no you are Korean. I corrected her and said no she is American. She might have been born in Korea and lived their until she was 3, but she wouldn't be considered Korean in Korea. It is a moment I go back to and ponder often.
I think it would be a shame if we didn't pay any attention to race or culture. It would be great if we as a society actually had respect for each other regardless of those things that make us unique. We should also be able to tell any part of our story when we feel fit not have to answer a question like "Where are you really from?"