Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
I don't think Lee is a tough guard for TT. If they play Lee and green then mozgov on Lee and TT on green. I don't see Lee having that big of an effect, especially if they keep passing up open mid range shots/layups/dunks for 3 pointers. They either need to get TT and Mozgov in foul trouble or Curry and Thompson have to both go for 30+ for them to win imo as the other 3 positions should be locked down by cav defenders.
Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
The one criticism I have of Steph is that he just gets too cute sometimes. I think this experience is going to help him learn even more control of tempo and picking his spots. He has gotten better each year, I expect that individual progress to translate to progress in the team game. I think the experience about controlling the game rather than just overwhelming teams with tempo will serve the Warriors and Steph well if they can afford to keep their team together. They may even be able to do it before this series is over.
Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
The one criticism I have of Steph is that he just gets too cute sometimes. I think this experience is going to help him learn even more control of tempo and picking his spots. He has gotten better each year, I expect that individual progress to translate to progress in the team game. I think the experience about controlling the game rather than just overwhelming teams with tempo will serve the Warriors and Steph well if they can afford to keep their team together. They may even be able to do it before this series is over.
He's getting doubled a lot and a guy with his size and athleticism isn't built to attack double teams. He's forcing the issue now and needs to dump the ball off early and his teammates need to take advantage of the 2 on 1 the double on Curry allows. If you attack it well enough the second guy will have to stay home on the fader and let Steph take the switcher 1 on 1. Lee took advantage of that in the second half and that's when their offense clicked.
So much is on Steph and Thompson offensively, but their teammates other than Iggy are doing nothing offensively and that has allowed Cleveland to attack Steph and Klay in the PnR with hard hedges and doubles. GS either needs more double screens which have left space open to split the double for Steph and Klay or they need their other guys to start becoming threats on offense to space the floor. When Green and Barnes shit the bed there is no spacing to work with. I think they need to do what Cleveland is doing and start having Klay set the screens for Steph and that way Cleveland can't just double Steph so he'll either get a 1 on 1 situation or he'll have an open Klay to dump the ball to. Then you can get Klay on Delly and have him wear him down in the post also.
Overall GS just needs to make some adjustments. They haven't adjusted to find the plays Cleveland's defense is allowing. Great defenses still have holes and GS is bailing Cleveland out with forced jump shots rather than finding what the defense is giving them and taking advantage. They started to do it with Lee in the second half. They need to make more adjustments like that because Cleveland has murdered pace and space brutally, but GS should still have the personnel to be a good half court team. Pace and space just let them blow people out this year.
Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
I don't think Lee is a tough guard for TT. If they play Lee and green then mozgov on Lee and TT on green. I don't see Lee having that big of an effect, especially if they keep passing up open mid range shots/layups/dunks for 3 pointers. They either need to get TT and Mozgov in foul trouble or Curry and Thompson have to both go for 30+ for them to win imo as the other 3 positions should be locked down by cav defenders.
I think some folks forget that Lee at one time was a consistent 20-10 threat playing against the league's starting 4's night in and night out for multiple years. That wasn't too long ago either! I hardly think TT is going to throw anything at him that he hasn't seen before.
That being said, even if Lee is held in check, the fact is he needs to be guarded. They have been almost totally ignoring Green so that they can do everything possible to contain and bottle up Curry/Thompson. Lee's mere presence should make things easier for the other guys because TT will have to pay very close attention to him. The dude knows how to score in a variety of ways.
Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
I don't think Lee is a tough guard for TT. If they play Lee and green then mozgov on Lee and TT on green. I don't see Lee having that big of an effect, especially if they keep passing up open mid range shots/layups/dunks for 3 pointers. They either need to get TT and Mozgov in foul trouble or Curry and Thompson have to both go for 30+ for them to win imo as the other 3 positions should be locked down by cav defenders.
I think some folks forget that Lee at one time was a consistent 20-10 threat playing against the league's starting 4's night in and night out for multiple years. That wasn't too long ago either! I hardly think TT is going to throw anything at him that he hasn't seen before.
That being said, even if Lee is held in check, the fact is he needs to be guarded. They have been almost totally ignoring Green so that they can do everything possible to contain and bottle up Curry/Thompson. Lee's mere presence should make things easier for the other guys because TT will have to pay very close attention to him. The dude knows how to score in a variety of ways.
Lee was the starter as recently as training camp... until he was injured. He was an 18/9/52% fg guy as recently as LAST season for a pretty damn good playoff team.
It's not remarkable that he's playing in these Finals... or if he plays well. What's truly remarkable is that he had dropped to 11th on the roster so quickly.
Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
I don't think Lee is a tough guard for TT. If they play Lee and green then mozgov on Lee and TT on green. I don't see Lee having that big of an effect, especially if they keep passing up open mid range shots/layups/dunks for 3 pointers. They either need to get TT and Mozgov in foul trouble or Curry and Thompson have to both go for 30+ for them to win imo as the other 3 positions should be locked down by cav defenders.
I think some folks forget that Lee at one time was a consistent 20-10 threat playing against the league's starting 4's night in and night out for multiple years. That wasn't too long ago either! I hardly think TT is going to throw anything at him that he hasn't seen before.
That being said, even if Lee is held in check, the fact is he needs to be guarded. They have been almost totally ignoring Green so that they can do everything possible to contain and bottle up Curry/Thompson. Lee's mere presence should make things easier for the other guys because TT will have to pay very close attention to him. The dude knows how to score in a variety of ways.
Lee was the starter as recently as training camp... until he was injured. He was an 18/9/52% fg guy as recently as LAST season for a pretty damn good playoff team.
It's not remarkable that he's playing in these Finals... or if he plays well. What's truly remarkable is that he had dropped to 11th on the roster so quickly.
If Green is going to keep playing like hot garbage I'd definitely get Lee in there more for the rebounding and scoring they desperately need.
Camden wrote:None of it will matter if Steph Curry continues to shit the bed. Delly and co. have locked him down, plus he's missing the open looks he does get.
Cam, Steph caught fire in the second half last night and was a big part in getting them back in the game. He also made a dumb turnover late with that behind-the-back pass out of bounds.
I think one of the reasons Lee will be a factor is because it will open things up for the Golden State backcourt. Right now those guys are pulling the trigger way too quickly. You can play a little more inside-out ball will Lee in the game.
I don't think Lee is a tough guard for TT. If they play Lee and green then mozgov on Lee and TT on green. I don't see Lee having that big of an effect, especially if they keep passing up open mid range shots/layups/dunks for 3 pointers. They either need to get TT and Mozgov in foul trouble or Curry and Thompson have to both go for 30+ for them to win imo as the other 3 positions should be locked down by cav defenders.
I think some folks forget that Lee at one time was a consistent 20-10 threat playing against the league's starting 4's night in and night out for multiple years. That wasn't too long ago either! I hardly think TT is going to throw anything at him that he hasn't seen before.
That being said, even if Lee is held in check, the fact is he needs to be guarded. They have been almost totally ignoring Green so that they can do everything possible to contain and bottle up Curry/Thompson. Lee's mere presence should make things easier for the other guys because TT will have to pay very close attention to him. The dude knows how to score in a variety of ways.
Lee was the starter as recently as training camp... until he was injured. He was an 18/9/52% fg guy as recently as LAST season for a pretty damn good playoff team.
It's not remarkable that he's playing in these Finals... or if he plays well. What's truly remarkable is that he had dropped to 11th on the roster so quickly.
If Green is going to keep playing like hot garbage I'd definitely get Lee in there more for the rebounding and scoring they desperately need.
Green seems to struggle against the length of TT playing as a PF (rebounding in particular) much less the instances challenging Mosgov around the rim. His lack of length has shown up in this series which seems odd to say.
It will be interesting to see how the series plays out, the Cavs have superior players at 3 of the 5 positions but the Warriors are just so much better overall. The Warriors are one blown dunk by Speights away from a win in game 2 and all this discussion about if the Cavs can even win another game this series. If the Warriors play like they are capable they'll win the next 3. Look at last game, the Cavs dominated the first 3 quarters but it only took 1 quarter of GS playing the way they are capable to close the gap.
On a side note I can't understand why GS doesn't run Dellavedova through constant hard screens. Lee seems like the only guy who actually hit Dellavedova on screens instead of just being an obstacle to run around.
The Rage Monster wrote:It will be interesting to see how the series plays out, the Cavs have superior players at 3 of the 5 positions but the Warriors are just so much better overall. The Warriors are one blown dunk by Speights away from a win in game 2 and all this discussion about if the Cavs can even win another game this series. If the Warriors play like they are capable they'll win the next 3. Look at last game, the Cavs dominated the first 3 quarters but it only took 1 quarter of GS playing the way they are capable to close the gap.
On a side note I can't understand why GS doesn't run Dellavedova through constant hard screens. Lee seems like the only guy who actually hit Dellavedova on screens instead of just being an obstacle to run around.
I liked what Billups said about GS on Cowherd this morning that the Warriors are playing like it's still the regular season and it's the Finals.
