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Re: Around the League
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:13 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
Q12543 wrote:I can only imagine what is going through the mind of Ryan Arcidiacono, a 4-year Villanova kid, national champion, and undrafted free agent that had to claw and scratch his way onto an NBA roster. I doubt he's complaining too much about doing some extra pushups.....
Watched a few Bulls games and he stood out. Not athletic, but really smart and works. He kinda reminded me of tyus.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:27 am
by AbeVigodaLive
I'm not completely anti-Bulls players on this one.
Granted, they're mostly younger guys, with few seasoned veterans, but the practice workload is not normal NBA behavior from an NBA coach... neither is the mind games he's trying to play with the team.
There's even a hint of "substitution expectations" in there that I bring up from time to time when we wonder why Thibs doesn't mess with the lineups and rotations more often.
Boylen subbed all 5 guys out after a couple of minutes. It's rare, but he learned it from Pop. But it was the 2nd time he did it (in the midst of a 5 - 3 Boston run to start the 3rd quarter) that was deemed excessive or bitter or whatever. In a player's league, the practices + power trip sub moves from a new guy is not going to fly with virtually any team/players.
Because the Bulls suck and are pretty green... I guess it's not being covered as more one-sided.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
crazy-canuck wrote:Q12543 wrote:I can only imagine what is going through the mind of Ryan Arcidiacono, a 4-year Villanova kid, national champion, and undrafted free agent that had to claw and scratch his way onto an NBA roster. I doubt he's complaining too much about doing some extra pushups.....
Watched a few Bulls games and he stood out. Not athletic, but really smart and works. He kinda reminded me of tyus.
I just love guys that just know how to play, even if they aren't the most gifted players. That's why I was always infatuated with Rubio. It's why I like Tyus. Saric seems like one of these types too.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:58 am
by Monster
AbeVigodaLive wrote:I'm not completely anti-Bulls players on this one.
Granted, they're mostly younger guys, with few seasoned veterans, but the practice workload is not normal NBA behavior from an NBA coach... neither is the mind games he's trying to play with the team.
There's even a hint of "substitution expectations" in there that I bring up from time to time when we wonder why Thibs doesn't mess with the lineups and rotations more often.
Boylen subbed all 5 guys out after a couple of minutes. It's rare, but he learned it from Pop. But it was the 2nd time he did it (in the midst of a 5 - 3 Boston run to start the 3rd quarter) that was deemed excessive or bitter or whatever. In a player's league, the practices + power trip sub moves from a new guy is not going to fly with virtually any team/players.
Because the Bulls suck and are pretty green... I guess it's not being covered as more one-sided.
There has been some reporting making the coach sound like a Crazy Thibs. Here is an interesting video from the Jump with some reporting that everyone may be on the same page and Marc Spears remembering reporting on a similar situation a few years ago. I guess Ryan Bowen was better at getting through a double team than you would guess. :)
https://twitter.com/rachel__nichols/status/1072273506174418951?s=21
Re: Around the League
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:23 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:I'm not completely anti-Bulls players on this one.
Granted, they're mostly younger guys, with few seasoned veterans, but the practice workload is not normal NBA behavior from an NBA coach... neither is the mind games he's trying to play with the team.
There's even a hint of "substitution expectations" in there that I bring up from time to time when we wonder why Thibs doesn't mess with the lineups and rotations more often.
Boylen subbed all 5 guys out after a couple of minutes. It's rare, but he learned it from Pop. But it was the 2nd time he did it (in the midst of a 5 - 3 Boston run to start the 3rd quarter) that was deemed excessive or bitter or whatever. In a player's league, the practices + power trip sub moves from a new guy is not going to fly with virtually any team/players.
Because the Bulls suck and are pretty green... I guess it's not being covered as more one-sided.
Yeah, I agree he probably over-rotated. It's alright to swing the pendulum a bit and tighten the reins, but you can't give people whiplash in the process. Still....Zach LaVine has zero credibility when it comes to playing winning basketball and leading a locker room. He's done nothing but lose his entire career (much of that due to his fellow team mates as well, but still....).
Re: Around the League
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:32 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
Q12543 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:I'm not completely anti-Bulls players on this one.
Granted, they're mostly younger guys, with few seasoned veterans, but the practice workload is not normal NBA behavior from an NBA coach... neither is the mind games he's trying to play with the team.
There's even a hint of "substitution expectations" in there that I bring up from time to time when we wonder why Thibs doesn't mess with the lineups and rotations more often.
Boylen subbed all 5 guys out after a couple of minutes. It's rare, but he learned it from Pop. But it was the 2nd time he did it (in the midst of a 5 - 3 Boston run to start the 3rd quarter) that was deemed excessive or bitter or whatever. In a player's league, the practices + power trip sub moves from a new guy is not going to fly with virtually any team/players.
Because the Bulls suck and are pretty green... I guess it's not being covered as more one-sided.
Yeah, I agree he probably over-rotated. It's alright to swing the pendulum a bit and tighten the reins, but you can't give people whiplash in the process. Still....Zach LaVine has zero credibility when it comes to playing winning basketball and leading a locker room. He's done nothing but lose his entire career (much of that due to his fellow team mates as well, but still....).
Sure. Not disagreeing... just pointing out that it's very very likely not something that would only happen to LaVine or the Bulls.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:06 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Nbatv saying clippers will try and sign Durant and Leonard. Great, let's make the West even stronger. Seriously, how long can we keep doing this?
Re: Around the League
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:26 am
by AbeVigodaLive
The Raptors are now 7 - 1 without Kawhi Leonard. All of the games have been on the road.
The average margin of victory is 18.5 ppg.
4 of the wins have come on back-to-backs clear across the country (LAL + Utah) and (LAC + GSW).
That's actually remarkable and very impressive. I highly doubt that the Wolves in the 30-year history of the franchise have won road back-to-backs like that twice in a season.
And the Raptors are doing it without their best player.
[Note: In other news... the Wolves are now 2 - 11 on the road this season... better only than the lowly Phoenix Suns. The only teams the Wolves have beaten are Cleveland and Brooklyn. Yuck.]
Re: Around the League
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:35 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:The Raptors are now 7 - 1 without Kawhi Leonard. All of the games have been on the road.
The average margin of victory is 18.5 ppg.
4 of the wins have come on back-to-backs clear across the country (LAL + Utah) and (LAC + GSW).
That's actually remarkable and very impressive. I highly doubt that the Wolves in the 30-year history of the franchise have won road back-to-backs like that twice in a season.
And the Raptors are doing it without their best player.
[Note: In other news... the Wolves are now 2 - 11 on the road this season... better only than the lowly Phoenix Suns. The only teams the Wolves have beaten are Cleveland and Brooklyn. Yuck.]
Yeah, Toronto is very impressive.
But let me present the Wolves' road record in a different way. The Wolves are undefeated (2-0) on the road with a healthy Rob Cunningham on the court, and 0-11 without. Let's see how they do on the road after he comes back healthy.
Re: Around the League
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:04 am
by AbeVigodaLive
longstrangetrip wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:The Raptors are now 7 - 1 without Kawhi Leonard. All of the games have been on the road.
The average margin of victory is 18.5 ppg.
4 of the wins have come on back-to-backs clear across the country (LAL + Utah) and (LAC + GSW).
That's actually remarkable and very impressive. I highly doubt that the Wolves in the 30-year history of the franchise have won road back-to-backs like that twice in a season.
And the Raptors are doing it without their best player.
[Note: In other news... the Wolves are now 2 - 11 on the road this season... better only than the lowly Phoenix Suns. The only teams the Wolves have beaten are Cleveland and Brooklyn. Yuck.]
Yeah, Toronto is very impressive.
But let me present the Wolves' road record in a different way. The Wolves are undefeated (2-0) on the road with a healthy Rob Cunningham on the court, and 0-11 without. Let's see how they do on the road after he comes back healthy.
I appreciate your tongue-in-cheek post.