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Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:31 am
by WildWolf2813
Just got home.
There were maybe 6 Wolves fans in the building.
We all celebrated together when the trade happened. If nothing else, this trade brings major credibility. Other team's fans know the Wolves are serious now.
It just feels like the suffering is almost over.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:51 am
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
khans2k5 wrote:I would have taken Giles as a project over who we ended up with. It's rare to get a top 5 talent at that spot in the draft. Bring him along slowly to unleash in a couple years. Interesting to hear a comp for him was Chris Webber and Vlade picks him up.
I agree with this, but that being said I really like the Patton pick. We got an athletic, long big, who hustles and runs the floor extremely well. Despite being raw in areas, those attributes usually translate well. I'd picked Giles, but I don't hate the pick.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:44 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
TRKO wrote:khans2k5 wrote:I would have taken Giles as a project over who we ended up with. It's rare to get a top 5 talent at that spot in the draft. Bring him along slowly to unleash in a couple years. Interesting to hear a comp for him was Chris Webber and Vlade picks him up.
I agree with this, but that being said I really like the Patton pick. We got an athletic, long big, who hustles and runs the floor extremely well. Despite being raw in areas, those attributes usually translate well. I'd picked Giles, but I don't hate the pick.
The beauty of getting the 16th pick is that there were several long players available at 16 that seem like good prospects. You and others liked Giles, some liked the other Collins, and I liked Jarrett Allen. But Thibs preferred Patton, and while I question his game-day coaching moves frequently, I don't question his ability to evaluate how talent fits into his system. I'm willing to concede that Patton will be a better choice than the other 7 footers we all favored.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:17 am
by TRKO [enjin:12664595]
longstrangetrip wrote:TRKO wrote:khans2k5 wrote:I would have taken Giles as a project over who we ended up with. It's rare to get a top 5 talent at that spot in the draft. Bring him along slowly to unleash in a couple years. Interesting to hear a comp for him was Chris Webber and Vlade picks him up.
I agree with this, but that being said I really like the Patton pick. We got an athletic, long big, who hustles and runs the floor extremely well. Despite being raw in areas, those attributes usually translate well. I'd picked Giles, but I don't hate the pick.
The beauty of getting the 16th pick is that there were several long players available at 16 that seem like good prospects. You and others liked Giles, some liked the other Collins, and I liked Jarrett Allen. But Thibs preferred Patton, and while I question his game-day coaching moves frequently, I don't question his ability to evaluate how talent fits into his system. I'm willing to concede that Patton will be a better choice than the other 7 footers we all favored.
What I'm about to say won't make sense, but picking 16 was better for the wolves than picking 7th. There was better value that fit their needs there. Not a lot excited me at 7, especially since nobody fell out of the top 6.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:42 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
TRKO wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:TRKO wrote:khans2k5 wrote:I would have taken Giles as a project over who we ended up with. It's rare to get a top 5 talent at that spot in the draft. Bring him along slowly to unleash in a couple years. Interesting to hear a comp for him was Chris Webber and Vlade picks him up.
I agree with this, but that being said I really like the Patton pick. We got an athletic, long big, who hustles and runs the floor extremely well. Despite being raw in areas, those attributes usually translate well. I'd picked Giles, but I don't hate the pick.
The beauty of getting the 16th pick is that there were several long players available at 16 that seem like good prospects. You and others liked Giles, some liked the other Collins, and I liked Jarrett Allen. But Thibs preferred Patton, and while I question his game-day coaching moves frequently, I don't question his ability to evaluate how talent fits into his system. I'm willing to concede that Patton will be a better choice than the other 7 footers we all favored.
What I'm about to say won't make sense, but picking 16 was better for the wolves than picking 7th. There was better value that fit their needs there. Not a lot excited me at 7, especially since nobody fell out of the top 6.
Interesting take...I don't disagree.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:13 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
TRKO wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:TRKO wrote:khans2k5 wrote:I would have taken Giles as a project over who we ended up with. It's rare to get a top 5 talent at that spot in the draft. Bring him along slowly to unleash in a couple years. Interesting to hear a comp for him was Chris Webber and Vlade picks him up.
I agree with this, but that being said I really like the Patton pick. We got an athletic, long big, who hustles and runs the floor extremely well. Despite being raw in areas, those attributes usually translate well. I'd picked Giles, but I don't hate the pick.
The beauty of getting the 16th pick is that there were several long players available at 16 that seem like good prospects. You and others liked Giles, some liked the other Collins, and I liked Jarrett Allen. But Thibs preferred Patton, and while I question his game-day coaching moves frequently, I don't question his ability to evaluate how talent fits into his system. I'm willing to concede that Patton will be a better choice than the other 7 footers we all favored.
What I'm about to say won't make sense, but picking 16 was better for the wolves than picking 7th. There was better value that fit their needs there. Not a lot excited me at 7, especially since nobody fell out of the top 6.
Yeah, I think once Thibs realized that Isaac, Tatum, and Jackson were going to be off the board by #7, he had no problem swapping out #7 for #16 as part of the Chicago deal. He took a guy that he feels has the best long-term potential that we can develop slowly.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:49 am
by TheFuture
Speaking of Tatum, what the hell is Boston doing? They're rumored to be considering going after George in a trade, or signing Hayward in FA? They already had Crowder and Brown at SF. I don't see Tatum fitting as a 4 at all.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:54 am
by BloopOracle
TheFuture wrote:Speaking of Tatum, what the hell is Boston doing? They're rumored to be considering going after George in a trade, or signing Hayward in FA? They already had Crowder and Brown at SF. I don't see Tatum fitting as a 4 at all.
Unless they pick up Blake Griffin I don't know Wtf they are doing
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:09 am
by thedoper
TheFuture wrote:Speaking of Tatum, what the hell is Boston doing? They're rumored to be considering going after George in a trade, or signing Hayward in FA? They already had Crowder and Brown at SF. I don't see Tatum fitting as a 4 at all.
Crowder and Brown are not Scorers. They need a wing who can score.
Re: Draft Dodgers Need Not Apply - GDT Wolves@Adam Silver
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:32 am
by TheFuture
thedoper wrote:TheFuture wrote:Speaking of Tatum, what the hell is Boston doing? They're rumored to be considering going after George in a trade, or signing Hayward in FA? They already had Crowder and Brown at SF. I don't see Tatum fitting as a 4 at all.
Crowder and Brown are not Scorers. They need a wing who can score.
I understand that (though Brown is actually developing nicely in that regard), and I know Hayward is no guarantee. But Crowder, Brown, Tatum all at the 3 - makes zero sense. This will impede the progress of either Brown or Tatum. Isaac could at least develop into a 4,which they have zero of.
They made a mistake not cashing in for Porzingis while Jackson was on the board, or Butler with #3, Bradley/Smart, and other picks.
They must be banking on Griffin for 65 games a year.