Minnesota Sports Forum

JasonIsDaMan wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Teletovic agrees to 3 year deal for 30M to play for Bucks.

Belly's a better player and we got him on a 3 year deal for 11.7 Million.

No he's not.

khans2k5 wrote:Can someone explain to me how in the hell the Clippers will be able to afford 4 max contracts of varying degrees and still field a full team?

SameOldDrew wrote:

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Most Stacked? Wiggy and Bazz? LOL yeah thats lights out.. Timberwolves have no STACKED positon sorry.

JJ plays both wing spots, as you mentioned, so he'd also be eating up minutes we need for LaVine and Dunn. I'm not paying 10 million per year to force myself to take away minutes from those 4 (Wiggins, LaVine, Dunn, and even Bazz) to give to JJ. If you want to sign a guy like Troy Daniels to a short, cheap contract as a 3 point specialist when players get desperate for a team and all this cap space gets eaten up, fine. They won't need many minutes or complain when they don't get them.

JJ would only take minutes away from Bazz, Hell he might of got some burn at pf. So you dont want the team to sign a SG? Were we only have lavine atm?

LaVine, Dunn, and Wiggins can all play the 2.
Wiggins, Bazz and even Bjelica can play the 3.

The development of all those guys, especially Wiggins, LaVine, and Dunn is way higher on the priority list. Because of Dunn's arrival and ability to play the 2 (and the need for him to get minutes there because of Rubio at the point), Wiggins is going to need to get almost all of his 36 minutes per game from the 3, which is going to leave just 12-14 minutes at that position, which is even less than Bazz got last year. Thus, anybody we pick up who needs more minutes than that needs to be able to play the bulk of his minutes at the 4.

Side note: if anybody doubts whether Dunn can play the 2, notice that his wingspan is actually bigger than JJ's. If we actually had signed JJ and played him at the 4, we'd have a PF with a shorter wingspan than our backup PG/SG combo.

I'd like the idea of getting a guy like Deng who has more length to legitimately play the 3 and 4, a guy who can defend well and support our young players' development, but JJ isn't that guy. I'm fine with getting a cheap 3 point specialist wing to fill out the bench, but JJ is a ball-stopping iso player who is going to want 30 minutes and 10-12 shots per game, and at 35 years old is going to be an increasing defensive liability. No thanks.

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Most Stacked? Wiggy and Bazz? LOL yeah thats lights out.. Timberwolves have no STACKED positon sorry.

JasonIsDaMan wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:Can someone explain to me how in the hell the Clippers will be able to afford 4 max contracts of varying degrees and still field a full team?

Every computer in the world uses Microsoft software. Their 3rd largest stockholder is the owner. The lux isn't a huge deal when you have that going for you.

And look at Cleveland's roster honestly. Isn't that what they are?

BizarroJerry wrote:I'm the only one shocked at the Conley deal?

monsterpile wrote:You know Founierfor 5 years 85 seems like a pretty good deal. Not sure he isn't a better player going forward than Beal (injury issues taken into consideration as well) and he costs 40 million less. Again just as the Magic sort of screw up one thing they get something else right. Kinda reminds me of Memphis when they built their team up.

khans2k5 wrote:

SameOldDrew wrote:

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Most Stacked? Wiggy and Bazz? LOL yeah thats lights out.. Timberwolves have no STACKED positon sorry.

JJ plays both wing spots, as you mentioned, so he'd also be eating up minutes we need for LaVine and Dunn. I'm not paying 10 million per year to force myself to take away minutes from those 4 (Wiggins, LaVine, Dunn, and even Bazz) to give to JJ. If you want to sign a guy like Troy Daniels to a short, cheap contract as a 3 point specialist when players get desperate for a team and all this cap space gets eaten up, fine. They won't need many minutes or complain when they don't get them.

JJ would only take minutes away from Bazz, Hell he might of got some burn at pf. So you dont want the team to sign a SG? Were we only have lavine atm?

LaVine, Dunn, and Wiggins can all play the 2.
Wiggins, Bazz and even Bjelica can play the 3.

The development of all those guys, especially Wiggins, LaVine, and Dunn is way higher on the priority list. Because of Dunn's arrival and ability to play the 2 (and the need for him to get minutes there because of Rubio at the point), Wiggins is going to need to get almost all of his 36 minutes per game from the 3, which is going to leave just 12-14 minutes at that position, which is even less than Bazz got last year. Thus, anybody we pick up who needs more minutes than that needs to be able to play the bulk of his minutes at the 4.

Side note: if anybody doubts whether Dunn can play the 2, notice that his wingspan is actually bigger than JJ's. If we actually had signed JJ and played him at the 4, we'd have a PF with a shorter wingspan than our backup PG/SG combo.

I'd like the idea of getting a guy like Deng who has more length to legitimately play the 3 and 4, a guy who can defend well and support our young players' development, but JJ isn't that guy. I'm fine with getting a cheap 3 point specialist wing to fill out the bench, but JJ is a ball-stopping iso player who is going to want 30 minutes and 10-12 shots per game, and at 35 years old is going to be an increasing defensive liability. No thanks.

He just signed on a team with Hayward, Alec Burks, Rodney Hood and Dante Exum ready to play the 2 and 3 and Favors and Lyles covering the 4. Something tells me his 30 minute 15 shot demand is a bullshit argument against him because he signed with a team more stacked at his position than we are. Also calling a 4 assist per game guy a ball stopper while arguing those minutes need to go to Bazz is an interesting tactic considering Bazz doesn't know how to pass the ball at all, let alone ever get more than 1 assist per game. He's a cheap, veteran leader looking to help someone win and the Jazz knew it and got him. We should have done the same thing and didn't.

monsterpile wrote:

JasonIsDaMan wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Teletovic agrees to 3 year deal for 30M to play for Bucks.

Belly's a better player and we got him on a 3 year deal for 11.7 Million.

No he's not.

I agree Tele is a better player right now (thought he was a cheap signing last offseason) but for the money I think Bjelica has the potential to be a better all around player. We will see though. The Wolves can also make a qualifying offer to make him a RFA if he does turn out to be a worthwhile player.

JasonIsDaMan wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:Can someone explain to me how in the hell the Clippers will be able to afford 4 max contracts of varying degrees and still field a full team?

Every computer in the world uses Microsoft software. Their 3rd largest stockholder is the owner. The lux isn't a huge deal when you have that going for you.

And look at Cleveland's roster honestly. Isn't that what they are?