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Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:59 pm
by fondey [enjin:6644772]
TeamRicky wrote:Someone on the Knicks Board brought up a good point: "First, Ricky isn't injury prone, his first one (ACL) was a beat against Kobe's knee and the second one (ankle) was a bad jump over the defender foot. I'm watching him since he was 16 and I can't remember another injury. He can play 82 games of a RS.

Second, this isn't objective but I think he can improve his shot and the layups because both are product of lack of physical work, both aerobic and anaerobic. He couldn't work in the preseason and he was cleared to play in November and his legs are weak and he suffers at the last quarters. I I bet he can improve a lot and average more than 15 ppg and nobody will say he is overpaid, especially with the next collective bargain."

Ricky's injuries have cut into developmental time and affected this season. Sam said as much. Given his free throw shooting is very good and that his shooting outside of the fourth quarter (when he isn't fatigued) is ok, I think we shouldn't assume Ricky can't improve on his FG%. That said even with the low FG%, Ricky makes up for it in so many ways. With a FG% north of 40%, he'd be an allstar.


I'm not as hopeful as you are that he can improve his layups. Dude is just plain horrible at them. I don't think players get much better at finishing near the rim beyond 5 years in the league...and he hasn't shown much an improvement since he joined the league, so I'm skeptical he make a leap all of a sudden.

I'm more hopeful he can find one hotspot either mid range or from 3 pnt range where his numbers are close to average. We saw this happen in years past with certain spots. If he can develop a solid corner 3, that allows us to give the ball to Wiggins and spot Ricky up in the corner during the 4th quarter. My question then is, why is he on the court at all during end of game situations if his primary role is to shoot?

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:03 pm
by alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Ricky can keep a defense honest off the dribble. Hopefully the next coach doesn't spot him up all game and run a bunch of iso.

And hopefully he can work on his lower body which should theoretically improve his sliding shooting percentages.


Adlemans system was a lot of ball movement and lack of Iso's and Rubio was the same player in that system as well

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:10 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Ricky can keep a defense honest off the dribble. Hopefully the next coach doesn't spot him up all game and run a bunch of iso.

And hopefully he can work on his lower body which should theoretically improve his sliding shooting percentages.


Adlemans system was a lot of ball movement and lack of Iso's and Rubio was the same player in that system as well


Huh? So, you're just going to act like Adelman didn't run action at the elbows with Love and Pek holding the ball? Then Martin or Brewer would come top and take the handoff, leaving Rubio as a spot up shooter. That happened far too often. Also, Adelman's system isn't predicated on pick and roll action, which just so happens to be Rubio's bread and butter. Next coach should have Ricky run 50 PnR's and get the most out of him that way.

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:28 pm
by Coolbreeze44
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Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:28 pm
by alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]
Camden wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:
Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Ricky can keep a defense honest off the dribble. Hopefully the next coach doesn't spot him up all game and run a bunch of iso.

And hopefully he can work on his lower body which should theoretically improve his sliding shooting percentages.


Adlemans system was a lot of ball movement and lack of Iso's and Rubio was the same player in that system as well


Huh? So, you're just going to act like Adelman didn't run action at the elbows with Love and Pek holding the ball? Then Martin or Brewer would come top and take the handoff, leaving Rubio as a spot up shooter. That happened far too often. Also, Adelman's system isn't predicated on pick and roll action, which just so happens to be Rubio's bread and butter. Next coach should have Ricky run 50 PnR's and get the most out of him that way.


Pick and rolls is how Pek scored all his points. So are you saying Adlemans system hurt Rubio because he had to shoot? You know if they ran 50 pick and rolls, the roll guy isn't shooting it 50 times right?

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:36 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Follow

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ESPN sources say Minnesota and Milwaukee engaged in fresh Ricky Rubio trade talks today but couldn't find common ground on a deal structure

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Trying to pawn off MCW on the Wolves?

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:39 pm
by bleedspeed
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
ESPN sources say Minnesota and Milwaukee engaged in fresh Ricky Rubio trade talks today but couldn't find common ground on a deal structure


What would we need from the Bucks to trade Rubio?

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:44 pm
by 60WinTim
bleedspeed177 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
ESPN sources say Minnesota and Milwaukee engaged in fresh Ricky Rubio trade talks today but couldn't find common ground on a deal structure


What would we need from the Bucks to trade Rubio?

I can't pronounce his name! ;-)

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:47 pm
by Monster
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Follow

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ESPN sources say Minnesota and Milwaukee engaged in fresh Ricky Rubio trade talks today but couldn't find common ground on a deal structure

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Trying to pawn off MCW on the Wolves?


Yeah I don't see what the Bucks would send us that makes much sense. MCW is bad shooter that's worse than Rubio and worse at everything else and isn't exactly a iron man either.

Re: Keep Ricky in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:59 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
bleedspeed177 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
ESPN sources say Minnesota and Milwaukee engaged in fresh Ricky Rubio trade talks today but couldn't find common ground on a deal structure


What would we need from the Bucks to trade Rubio?


Nothing they're willing to give up. No mas.