Minnesota Twins 2021 Season

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Fell asleep in the 7th and woke up one pitch before Sano launched one in the 12th. Why they didn't walk him I don't know mangers are stupid.

5 in a row only 10 games to get to .500

Real question is what does this team do at deadline. Buxton and Berrios both with plus one year on there contracts would get a ton of prospects. I mean I could even seeing combing them is trade to Tampa for Franco since they lost Glasnow for the year.

I honestly would blow up the window has closed on this team. But in reality there not a chance they will because there's no way this regime would survive the rebuild.

Buxton returning and immediately looking like one of the top players in the league again...man it would be hard to trade him even though he simply can't stay healthy.

As for the game I was watching the highlights not knowing the outcome of the game and and after seeing they left the bases loaded in the 8th and 9th innings...well that didn't make me feel too good. Also I guess Nelson Cruz neck is ok. That HR he hit earlier in the game went out so fast. Heck of a game for the Pen and Shoemaker finished off the game with 2 scoreless innings. Can the Twins keep rolling and make their season more interesting?

Monster, I'm afraid the answer to your question is no. This team simply doesn't win consistently without Buxton, and he's now going to be out for a while again with a "boxer's fracture"...unbelievable. I was all in on this team with Buxton playing the way he was, Arraez back and the sweet left-handed swings of Kirilloff and Larnach, but Buck's latest injury is the death knell for this season. I feel bad for Buck, and I feel bad for Twins' fans not getting to watch this incredible player. So I have to agree with jester...blow it up and get what you can for anyone before the deadline.

That said, let's at least celebrate a 5-game win streak and a surprising win last night. The baseball gods just don't let you win often when you leave the bases loaded more than once, and especially when you've lost your best player and Matt Shoemaker is warming up in the bullpen. I have to admit I turned the TV off at the end of the 10th when they flashed on Matt in the bullpen. But apparently the threw nothing but splitters, and gave us two terrific innings for the win. And .187 hitter Miguel Sano came through big time...not only with the game winning HR, but also with an impressive at bat in the 10th. Way to go Matt and Miguel...two guys in the midst of terrible seasons, but coming through to give us our 5th straight win.

Okay, that's enough celebrating...I'm going back to being depressed about Buck.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Is Buxton fragile or incredibly unlucky? I mean, this is ridiculous.

[FNG]

Is Buxton fragile or incredibly unlucky? I mean, this is ridiculous.

Q, I'm not saying this as a criticism of Buck, but I think the answer has to be "fragile". I didn't see how he hurt himself last night, but my understanding is he fractured his hand catching a fly ball. That's not normal. It's called a boxer's fracture because it happens sometimes due to the violent nature of a punch. But I've caught a lot of balls as an outfielder, and the impact is just not that dramatic. Maybe I have the origin of the injury incorrect, but if that is it, we are talking about a guy who is enormously brittle. So sad for him and fans, because he is a unique talent who seemed to be realizing his enormous potential this season. I have tickets for Friday night, and I'm quite unhappy Buck won't be playing.

[Jester1534]

Is Buxton fragile or incredibly unlucky? I mean, this is ridiculous.

You know this always been hard one for me. Because the nature of his injuries have been flukey type injuries. Just like this new one I've never even heard of it before. He's broken a foot and a wrist. It's not like he keeps hurting the same body part over and over.

I've also never seen a player on when he plays no matter how long lay off he's arguable a top 3 MVP candidate.

Also the news keeps getting better. One of my sources told me they believe Johan Duran will have to get Tommy John surgery but there going for 2nd 3rd opinion. So we don't even get to have that to look forward to in the second half.

Why can't this team superstars ever stay healthy.

Mauers leg
Morneau Concussions
Lirianos arm
Donaldson calf
Jason Kubel Knees seriously go look up old Kubel videos before he hurt his knees he was buxton lite.
Not a superstar yet but hopefully Royce Lewis ACL slipping on ice.

Anyone I miss in the last 20 years?

[Jester1534]

The only good thing about this is we can probably resign buxton to 4 years 50-60 mil or something cause no one is going to give him a 6-7 year + contract

[FNG]

The only good thing about this is we can probably resign buxton to 4 years 50-60 mil or something cause no one is going to give him a 6-7 year + contract

Yep. I was hoping you were going to weigh in, jester, because I know you have played a lot of ball. First, I don't know if my report is correct, but Seth Stohs tweeted out that Buxton winced after he caught a fly ball, so I assumed that his fracture came from that. But maybe something happened in an earlier at bat that caused the fracture, and he was just reacting to it on the catch. I know you've both played and coached. Have you ever heard of such an injury from catching a ball? I remember a catcher I played with fracturing his hand catching a fast ball, but it would be bizarre if it happened on a fly ball. Before last night I attributed his injuries to a combination of playing extremely hard and bad luck. But now I'm wondering if his body is flawed and he is fragile to the point of getting injured from events that wouldn't injure a typical player. Whatever it is, it's tragic that this superstar can't stay on the field.

[Jester1534]

The only good thing about this is we can probably resign buxton to 4 years 50-60 mil or something cause no one is going to give him a 6-7 year + contract

Yep. I was hoping you were going to weigh in, jester, because I know you have played a lot of ball. First, I don't know if my report is correct, but Seth Stohs tweeted out that Buxton winced after he caught a fly ball, so I assumed that his fracture came from that. But maybe something happened in an earlier at bat that caused the fracture, and he was just reacting to it on the catch. I know you've both played and coached. Have you ever heard of such an injury from catching a ball? I remember a catcher I played with fracturing his hand catching a fast ball, but it would be bizarre if it happened on a fly ball. Before last night I attributed his injuries to a combination of playing extremely hard and bad luck. But now I'm wondering if his body is flawed and he is fragile to the point of getting injured from events that wouldn't injure a typical player. Whatever it is, it's tragic that this superstar can't stay on the field.

No nothing like that at all. The only thing weird that I've ever seen is I had 3rd basemen a couple years go on relay throw to the plate put his throwing hand in glove to quickly trying to get ball out fast the ball ripped off his middle finger nail and he was out two months because he couldn't throw a a baseball as the nail was regrowing.

At end of the day Buxton might have to ace second career as a DH.

[FNG]

I apologize, guys, for being a fountain of misinformation today. I was wrong about the NBA lottery, and also about the source of Buck's injury Since I only saw the 8th through 10th innings last night, I was unaware until my son just told me that Buxton hurt his hand getting hit by a pitch in the 4th inning. He then left in the 6th after wincing while he was catching a ground ball. Anyone could break a hand getting hit by a pitch, so I'm going to amend my conclusion that Buck is fragile. Instead, I think he consistently plays hard and is incredibly unlucky...as are all we fans being cheated out of the opportunity to watch him every day.

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The only good thing about this is we can probably resign buxton to 4 years 50-60 mil or something cause no one is going to give him a 6-7 year + contract

Yep. I was hoping you were going to weigh in, jester, because I know you have played a lot of ball. First, I don't know if my report is correct, but Seth Stohs tweeted out that Buxton winced after he caught a fly ball, so I assumed that his fracture came from that. But maybe something happened in an earlier at bat that caused the fracture, and he was just reacting to it on the catch. I know you've both played and coached. Have you ever heard of such an injury from catching a ball? I remember a catcher I played with fracturing his hand catching a fast ball, but it would be bizarre if it happened on a fly ball. Before last night I attributed his injuries to a combination of playing extremely hard and bad luck. But now I'm wondering if his body is flawed and he is fragile to the point of getting injured from events that wouldn't injure a typical player. Whatever it is, it's tragic that this superstar can't stay on the field.

"Buxton, who missed 40 games with a strained right hip before returning to action on Saturday, was hit by a 94 mph fastball from Reds starter Tyler Mahle in the fourth inning. Buxton stayed in the game for another inning but grimaced after making a catch in center field to end the fifth and was pulled."

[Jester1534]

Twins Record with and without Buxton

2020 Twins when Buxton plays: 14-8 (.636)

2020 Twins when Buxton doesn't play: 7-8 (.467)

OVERALL RECORD: 21-16 (.568)
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2019 Twins when Buxton plays: 62-25 (.713)

2019 Twins when Buxton doesn't play: 39-36 (.520)

OVERALL RECORD: 101-61 (.623)
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2018 Twins when Buxton plays: 14-14 (.500)

2018 Twins when Buxton doesn't play: 64-70 (.478)

OVERALL RECORD: 78-84 (.481)
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2017 Twins when Buxton plays: 77-63 (.550)

2017 Twins when Buxton doesn't play: 8-14 (.364)