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thedoper wrote:Armchair basketball statisticians are one thing. Armchair epidemiologists, virologists, and physicians are a whole other level.

Amen

Sorry for your loss, Q. I know it's a tough deal, especially in a time where so many elderly people are isolated and unable to connect with family when they are nearing their end.

On another note, I have maintained that we are destined to turn ourselves into the Borg. I really didn't think it would happen in my lifetime, but I am starting to wonder...

Resistance is futile.

So anyways Beasley's wife is filing for divorce.

https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/malik-beasleys-wife-files-for-divorce-after-larsa-pippen-dating-controversy/

It's truly sad for his son that he was born into this kind of dysfunction. Beasley's life is total chaos right now

thedoper wrote:Armchair basketball statisticians are one thing. Armchair epidemiologists, virologists, and physicians are a whole other level.

Like basketball, there are various credible sources that can be used to reach logical conclusions. This is no different except the matter is off the court. There's more than enough evidence to suggest that both of the following statements are true.

1. COVID-19 is a potentially lethal virus -- specifically to those that are elderly and/or victim to underlying conditions.

2. Politicians and mainstream media have successfully used fear mongering concerning COVID-19 to control the masses.

Q12543 wrote:My Dad (longtime Wolves season ticket-holder by the way and one of the main reasons I follow this team) just died from Covid not that long ago. While he was no spring chicken, he was in good health, of sound body and mind. You damn well better believe it can be serious and deadly.

As for the man-made/government conspiracy angle, pandemics and viruses in particular have been around forever. They really don't need us men to create them!

(By they way, Ted Turner hasn't had anything to do with CNN or TNT for years, as he sold off his stake in those entities a long time ago. So if he was in on this vast conspiracy to boost ratings and kill off old people - like himself I guess? - then he's certainly missing out on any of the gains).

Sorry for your loss, Q. Yes, Covid is a dangerous and highly contagious disease. My sister teaches at a community college in Iowa. Three of her students, all in their 20s and 30s, have contracted the disease. One of them described it as 10 times worse that the flu. A friend of mine sent me an email earlier this week telling me that his entire family (himself, his wife and two older children came down with Covid - likely spread by his son who works in a convenience store. His son and all the patrons wear masks, but obviously even masks aren't 100% effective. His wife got very sick, but is feeling better now.

Volans19 wrote:So anyways Beasley's wife is filing for divorce.

https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/malik-beasleys-wife-files-for-divorce-after-larsa-pippen-dating-controversy/

It's truly sad for his son that he was born into this kind of dysfunction. Beasley's life is total chaos right now

I'd say Beasley's career is going pretty well is not total chaos.

I don't exactly have a ton to go off of but it doesn't seem like Beasley's relationship with his wife was going well before he was hanging out with another woman. This isn't shocking to me at all.

Beasley has been accused of more than infidelity etc but until a few years ago a lot of stuff about athletes was simply not known or people didn't really care. I'm not saying stuff doesn't matter because ultimately it does but is good to consider some context. It's also worth considering people that are in the spotlight that haven't really made any missteps probably should be given some sort of credit for that as well. There are also legit redemption stories. There are also the Darren Sharper situations that NOBODY seemed to see coming.

And yes hopefully the kid turns out ok.

Camden0916 wrote:

thedoper wrote:Armchair basketball statisticians are one thing. Armchair epidemiologists, virologists, and physicians are a whole other level.

Like basketball, there are various credible sources that can be used to reach logical conclusions. This is no different except the matter is off the court. There's more than enough evidence to suggest that both of the following statements are true.

1. COVID-19 is a potentially lethal virus -- specifically to those that are elderly and/or victim to underlying conditions.

2. Politicians and mainstream media have successfully used fear mongering concerning COVID-19 to control the masses.

Unlike basketball stats, all of the credible sources take Covid very seriously for all levels of the population and not those just at risk. Also unlike basketball stats, there are limitations to who has the authority to provide credible data on this issue. The absolute consensus of all credible research on the virus is that everyone should take transmission seriously, regardless of personal risk. There is no grey area amongst credible sources of data.

How much fear the media wants to draw from that consensus is definitely varied. But there is legitimate reason for fear when so much of the public ignores real facts by real experts and opts for psuedo-science as an acceptable alternative.

thedoper wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:

thedoper wrote:Armchair basketball statisticians are one thing. Armchair epidemiologists, virologists, and physicians are a whole other level.

Like basketball, there are various credible sources that can be used to reach logical conclusions. This is no different except the matter is off the court. There's more than enough evidence to suggest that both of the following statements are true.

1. COVID-19 is a potentially lethal virus -- specifically to those that are elderly and/or victim to underlying conditions.

2. Politicians and mainstream media have successfully used fear mongering concerning COVID-19 to control the masses.

Unlike basketball stats, all of the credible sources take Covid very seriously for all levels of the population and not those just at risk. Also unlike basketball stats, there are limitations to who has the authority to provide credible data on this issue. The absolute consensus of all credible research on the virus is that everyone should take transmission seriously, regardless of personal risk. There is no grey area amongst credible sources of data.

How much fear the media wants to draw from that consensus is definitely varied. But there is legitimate reason for fear when so much of the public ignores real facts by real experts and opts for psuedo-science as an acceptable alternative.

I almost completely disagree with your response on this, as you likely do with mine, but I have no doubts about your morality. You do seem like a person of good character. I just think you're missing the bigger picture on this one.

Camden0916 wrote:

thedoper wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:

thedoper wrote:Armchair basketball statisticians are one thing. Armchair epidemiologists, virologists, and physicians are a whole other level.

Like basketball, there are various credible sources that can be used to reach logical conclusions. This is no different except the matter is off the court. There's more than enough evidence to suggest that both of the following statements are true.

1. COVID-19 is a potentially lethal virus -- specifically to those that are elderly and/or victim to underlying conditions.

2. Politicians and mainstream media have successfully used fear mongering concerning COVID-19 to control the masses.

Unlike basketball stats, all of the credible sources take Covid very seriously for all levels of the population and not those just at risk. Also unlike basketball stats, there are limitations to who has the authority to provide credible data on this issue. The absolute consensus of all credible research on the virus is that everyone should take transmission seriously, regardless of personal risk. There is no grey area amongst credible sources of data.

How much fear the media wants to draw from that consensus is definitely varied. But there is legitimate reason for fear when so much of the public ignores real facts by real experts and opts for psuedo-science as an acceptable alternative.

I almost completely disagree with your response on this, as you likely do with mine, but I have no doubts about your morality. You do seem like a person of good character. I just think you're missing the bigger picture on this one.

What Cam said. You can usually find data to back your opinion/agenda on almost any topic. This is definitely not an exception.

Drunken Dribbler 22 wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:

thedoper wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:

thedoper wrote:Armchair basketball statisticians are one thing. Armchair epidemiologists, virologists, and physicians are a whole other level.

Like basketball, there are various credible sources that can be used to reach logical conclusions. This is no different except the matter is off the court. There's more than enough evidence to suggest that both of the following statements are true.

1. COVID-19 is a potentially lethal virus -- specifically to those that are elderly and/or victim to underlying conditions.

2. Politicians and mainstream media have successfully used fear mongering concerning COVID-19 to control the masses.

Unlike basketball stats, all of the credible sources take Covid very seriously for all levels of the population and not those just at risk. Also unlike basketball stats, there are limitations to who has the authority to provide credible data on this issue. The absolute consensus of all credible research on the virus is that everyone should take transmission seriously, regardless of personal risk. There is no grey area amongst credible sources of data.

How much fear the media wants to draw from that consensus is definitely varied. But there is legitimate reason for fear when so much of the public ignores real facts by real experts and opts for psuedo-science as an acceptable alternative.

I almost completely disagree with your response on this, as you likely do with mine, but I have no doubts about your morality. You do seem like a person of good character. I just think you're missing the bigger picture on this one.

What Cam said. You can usually find data to back your opinion/agenda on almost any topic. This is definitely not an exception.

You can find lots of data on Coivd, but not everyone is equipped to interpret this data. Everyone who is properly equipped to interpret the data on Covid takes it very seriously. There is no debate on its seriousness by anyone who is a legitimate expert in virology, epidemiology, or physicians who are infectious disease specialists. There may be fringe outliers who say its not an issue, but they aren't presenting any data and there has yet to be any reputable, peer reviewed, medical or scientific publication that has presented anything beyond the reality that Covid transmission is very serious amongst the whole population.