NBA Off-Season Moves

[Monster]

Pacers get Kyle O'Quinn for 4.5 million. I like what they have done this offseason.

[Lipoli390]

Bjelly clearly didn't want to be here.....

No doubt. It's the Thibs effect. We all read what David Thorpe said, which shouldn't have been a surprised given what we're all seen and heard previously. I accept that Monster would prefer Tolliver over Belly, but that wasn't Thibs' preference. Thibs really wanted to re-sign Belly and the fact that he had to pay more for Tolliver is telling. Thibs gets free agents by paying more than others. And even then, a lot of players simply won't come here to play for him. Thibodeau isn't a good enough head coach or basketball executive to overcome the negativity he generates.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

If the accounts are true, uncle dennis is going to make lavar ball seem like mary poppins.

Lavar is loud and obnoxious, but u at least know where he is coming from.

Who is uncle dennis?

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

If the accounts are true, uncle dennis is going to make lavar ball seem like mary poppins.

Lavar is loud and obnoxious, but u at least know where he is coming from.

Who is uncle dennis?

Hes kawhis uncle.


Summary via someone from Reddit:


Here's my quick write up from the full podcast for those that don't want to listen to the whole hour and 15 minutes.

At the All Star game in NO a few years ago Kawhi and his group are at a hotel and the Spurs security tells them what time they need to get them out to get them to the game on time. Uncle Dennis says "no we're not doing this, this is when we're going to leave". They decide to leave when Uncle Dennis says and they end up stuck in traffic a block away from the hotel. The police end up letting them through but it would take them an hour and a half to get to the arena. They ended up having Kawhi get out, put a hood over his head, and walk to the Arena from the hotel.



Uncle Dennis thinks the Spurs are too controlling but he doesn't have any experience representing any other players from any other teams.



Spurs gave Kawhi and his camp complete control of his "rehab" starting August 8th. The rehab was controlled by his own doctors although Wright does not know if he really did shop around for a bunch of doctors or not. Spurs had absolutely no say in his rehab process at all which is why Pop would refer reporters to Kawhi's group when asked questions about his status.



Wright thinks the Spurs were too accommodating to Kawhi and his group which is why all of this has happened. Says Kawhi realized he was a star in the league and wanted to be treated as such. In the words of Wright "Spurs gave him an inch and Kawhi took a mile".



If Spurs offer supermax he thinks he would re-sign (because $$$ talks) but at this point the Spurs probably don't trust the people around Leonard enough to offer up that amount of money (would be 30% of their Cap). (This leads me to believe that the rumors about the Spurs not offering the supermax are true.)



The Spurs have told Wright that they want to get Kawhi in a room ALONE. No Dennis, no one else speaking for him. Just Kawhi.



The Spurs would get a call from Uncle Dennis saying "Kawhi wants this and that" but the Spurs would never know if it was really Kawhi's wishes or his Uncles.



The Spurs don't believe that his Uncle has his best interest at heart but know that his Uncle means a lot to him due to the fact that he was there for him after his father was murdered.



Wright did not write the story about Parkers comments because he knew exactly that it would be taken out of context as soon as he said it. He says the reports about Kawhi being betrayed by Tony's comments are excuses coming from his Uncle.



The reason Kawhis teammates were frustrated and called a team meeting was because Kawhi's group kept throwing out return dates which would come and go. Eventually the team got fed up and confronted him about all the pump faking. Manu's comments a week or so before the team meeting seems to confirm that the team knew they were getting hit with the Okie Doke by Kawhi's group.



Kawhi told them he would be back for the game against NO on March 19th which was picture day. Kawhi showed up for pictures but as soon as they started pre game shoot around he left. That night after the game they had the team meeting and two days later Kawhi left for NY and never came back to the team.



Up to the point before the trade request in June Wright talked to multiple people in the organisation who were confident they could get Pop to sit down with Kawhi and iron everything out. The death of Pop's wife complicated things and it took a while for him to get the meeting with Kawhi. Kawhi didn't want to meet with Pop and did everything he would to avoid the meeting. At that point the trade request news came out.



Kawhi's side feels like Spurs are leaking info that makes him look bad. Wright thinks those are excuses and that he just doesn't want to play in San Antonio. He doesn't see a good ending for either side here.



Wright says people think he's exaggerating about Uncle Dennis but some of the things that he requests/demands are unrealistic. According to him some of the stories are hard to believe and he laughs when he thinks about them. (I should note that Jeff McDonald, another Spurs beat writer has compared Uncle Dennis to Lavar Ball).



Kawhi doesn't want to go to the Lakers. His preferred destination is the Clippers but the Clippers have absolutely no assets that the Spurs want. He expects a dark horse team to come in and nab Kawhi in a trade.



He does not see Kawhi handling the LA media scene very well. Says he was well protected from the media in San Antonio and doesn't think he is ready for an environment like that.

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

Melo being stretched.

Jimmy is one of his best friends. Would anyone be upset with melo for the vet minimum?

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Melo being stretched.

Jimmy is one of his best friends. Would anyone be upset with melo for the vet minimum?

Yes lol. He's worse than Jamal. Career lows last year in FG%, getting to the FT line and Assists. He's not good anymore and will want to play more than he should be playing at this point in his career.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Melo being stretched.

Jimmy is one of his best friends. Would anyone be upset with melo for the vet minimum?

I would, c-c. For some reason, teams seem to get better when he leaves them, and worse when he joins them. Most people thought Carmelo, George and Russ would be a formidable big 3 (especially with the Big Kiwi coming on so strong), but true to form, Melo helped them underperfom. He defended and rebounded poorly and shot only 40% from the field, and he's going to be 34 years old. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Target Center.

[Monster]

Melo being stretched.

Jimmy is one of his best friends. Would anyone be upset with melo for the vet minimum?

I would, c-c. For some reason, teams seem to get better when he leaves them, and worse when he joins them. Most people thought Carmelo, George and Russ would be a formidable big 3 (especially with the Big Kiwi coming on so strong), but true to form, Melo helped them underperfom. He defended and rebounded poorly and shot only 40% from the field, and he's going to be 34 years old. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Target Center.

LST was more right about Melo last year than even he expected. I'm not interested. I hope he goes to LA and plays with Lebron or to Houston and play with CP3. I think those are more likely than him coming here. I'm glad for OKC that they decided to move on from him (seemed likely to me when they paid Grant a decent chunk of money). Unfortunately it probably hurts the Wolves because I can see OKC being better without him. This is from a guy that has often defended Melo a bit.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Wow, didn't know about the whole Uncle Dennis thing....What a mess. I think some of these players just have such a hard time staying grounded and they have all these voices in their ears, many of which are in it for themselves and not the player. Uncle Dennis sounds like one of them, but you can see why Kawhi would feel a sense of loyalty to him.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Melo being stretched.

Jimmy is one of his best friends. Would anyone be upset with melo for the vet minimum?

I would, c-c. For some reason, teams seem to get better when he leaves them, and worse when he joins them. Most people thought Carmelo, George and Russ would be a formidable big 3 (especially with the Big Kiwi coming on so strong), but true to form, Melo helped them underperfom. He defended and rebounded poorly and shot only 40% from the field, and he's going to be 34 years old. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Target Center.

LST was more right about Melo last year than even he expected. I'm not interested. I hope he goes to LA and plays with Lebron or to Houston and play with CP3. I think those are more likely than him coming here. I'm glad for OKC that they decided to move on from him (seemed likely to me when they paid Grant a decent chunk of money). Unfortunately it probably hurts the Wolves because I can see OKC being better without him. This is from a guy that has often defended Melo a bit.

Yeah, Melo would be really toxic because you know that he isn't going to change his game one iota.