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Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:32 pm
by Brooklyn_Wolves [enjin:14608167]
Lillard was better from anywhere on the floor. But the main difference: he can shoot, Dunn can't.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:37 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Camden wrote:
BizarroJerry wrote:Buddy Hield please, can he play PG?


No, he cannot play point guard.


I think he could.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:41 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
BizarroJerry wrote:
Camden wrote:
BizarroJerry wrote:Buddy Hield please, can he play PG?


No, he cannot play point guard.


I think he could.


He doesn't even play PG for his own team. Let alone possibly be an NBA caliber PG. He's a great spot up and clutch shooter. That's his calling at the next level.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:43 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Camden wrote:
Brooklyn_Wolves wrote:Oops, how could I forget about Curry :dizzy:
But the points stands. All those guys were super efficient scorers. Dunn is none of that.


The only thing holding Dunn's advanced efficiency numbers down is his FT shooting percentage. He's solid from the field and from three (improved his % and volume this year). Sub-70% from the line as a guard is unacceptable, but that might be the guy's only glaring flaw as of right now. Luckily, free throw shooting is improvable.


My issue with FT% is that it's often a bellwether for 3PT shooting. I know that sounds a little specious (for example, that obviously hasn't been the case with Ricky Rubio), but it's fairly well correlated overall. It's just rare to find a guy that struggles to knock down FTs at a high rate turn into a decent NBA 3-pt shooter.

That being said, he does an awful lot of other things very well.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:01 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Ben Simmons came off the bench today due to some academic dust-up. Givony ripped him to shreds on DX's twitter feed for horrible body language and lackluster play (by his standards). Not sure what's going on there, but seems like another little flag is raised on this kid. Just enormously talented, but not sure about the heart.....

Assuming we are out of the top 3, I'm still thinking along the lines of Dunn-Valentine-Hield.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:17 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
khans2k5 wrote:
BizarroJerry wrote:
Camden wrote:
BizarroJerry wrote:Buddy Hield please, can he play PG?


No, he cannot play point guard.


I think he could.


He doesn't even play PG for his own team. Let alone possibly be an NBA caliber PG. He's a great spot up and clutch shooter. That's his calling at the next level.


Are you saying that because he lacks quickness and ball handling skills or because he shoots a lot of 3s?

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:30 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Q12543 wrote:Ben Simmons came off the bench today due to some academic dust-up. Givony ripped him to shreds on DX's twitter feed for horrible body language and lackluster play (by his standards). Not sure what's going on there, but seems like another little flag is raised on this kid. Just enormously talented, but not sure about the heart.....

Assuming we are out of the top 3, I'm still thinking along the lines of Dunn-Valentine-Hield.


Q, I don't know how much free time you have, but I'd like you to watch whatever you can on Sabonis and tell me what you think. I think he'd be a guy you'd be seriously interested in too. He's more of a traditional PF so don't expect to see many jumpers. That's not his game, though, he does make his FTs this year. Also, he's a really strong defender from what I've watched, both man and team. Guy's built like Thor too.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:30 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
BizarroJerry wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
BizarroJerry wrote:
Camden wrote:
BizarroJerry wrote:Buddy Hield please, can he play PG?


No, he cannot play point guard.


I think he could.


He doesn't even play PG for his own team. Let alone possibly be an NBA caliber PG. He's a great spot up and clutch shooter. That's his calling at the next level.


Are you saying that because he lacks quickness and ball handling skills or because he shoots a lot of 3s?


I think we're saying it because he's not a point guard nor does he play point guard. He's a shooting guard through and through.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:47 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
If we don't have a shot at Ingram/Dunn and maybe Heild (the volume + efficiency is hard to ignore even though I;m not completely sold on him), I'm increasingly gravitating towards the idea of trading down. If we could pick up say Domantas Sabonis and Grayson Allen, I'd consider that a very solid draft.

Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:05 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Part of me likes Grayson Allen more than Kris Dunn... That ability to slash/shoot/facilitate/defend at a high level vs. elite competition... I think he could be a scoring PG in today's NBA, though other sites may strictly say he's a SG. He handles the rock for Duke a ton. I keep watching him and most impressive is his feel for the game.