Wolves offseason outlook.

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Lipoli390 wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 6:16 pm A couple Wolves/Bulls trade ideas:

TRADE 1 (trade up scenario)
- Bulls Get: Randle, Pick #28
- Wolves Get: Williams, Okoro, Pick #15

TRADE 2 (PG acquisition/Trade down scenario)
- Bulls Get: Randle, Pick #28
- Wolves Get: Giddy, Gueye, Pick #38

If the Wolves want to take a big jump next season, Randle would be a good addition. They have Trae Jones who is arguably a better pure PG than Giddy. The Bulls have the #4 pick in next week’s draft so they the 15th pick isn’t that important to them. They can get a potential future star at #4 and still get a decent player at #28.
Downside to Chicago is this:

they're gonna draft Caleb Wilson. They already have Matas Buzelis. They drafted Noa Essengue last year. Adding in Randle isn't beneficial to any of them.
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A three-way trade idea - Wolves, Celtics, Bulls - assuming the Celtics don’t end up with Giannis.

- Wolves Get: Derrick White, Isaac Okoro, Jalen Smith, Bulls pick #15.
- Celtics Get: Julius Randle, Tre Jones
- Bulls Get: Rudy Gobert, Celtics #27 pick and Wolves Pick #28.

Wolves get the PG they want and a decent young vet center in Smith as a bridge to the development of Beringer and Rocco. Isaac Okoro brings toughness but he’s mainly a filler that I’m sure Chicago would be happy to part with at his salary.

Having failed to get Giannis, the Celtics get a high-level scoring PF still in his prime without losing Brown. They get Tre Jones to fill the slot vacated by the departing White and still have Pritchard.

Bulls get an elite defensive center who will help them win and mentor the younger players as they continue their rebuild. They also get two lower first round picks in exchange for one mid-1st.
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By the way, I’m not sure I’d do that three-way deal I just outlined. I still like White a lot, but I’m a bit troubled by his inefficiency last season. He shot under 40% from the field and in the low 30s from behind the arc. His durability isn’t an issue unlike the other Wolves trade targets. He seems to be just what we need, but….
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feels like we're swapping Gobert, Randle and a pick for White and a PG who will not sniff the starting lineup until White is gone (assuming the 15th pick is Philon).

The #15 pick doesn't offset the fact that we're paying Isaac Okoro $22 mil over the next 2 years to be Jaylen Clark.

Also for Boston, Tre Jones wouldn't fill the void left by White. Randle would and it would move Tatum and White down to SF and SG respectively.

Bulls walk away alright. They're not trading much of value.
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Lots of Wolves chatter leaking out including these more recent bits:

HoopsHype is reporting the Wolves are peddling Julius, DDV and 28, which we all could have guessed.

Also Ayo is projected to be in the 18-20 million range. Related: the Duncd on Mock offseason had Ayo choosing a 4/80 deal from Minnesota over the same offer from the Bulls.

Lastly, the Clippers had gauged the market for Harden and Leonard early last season and inquired about Jaden but were rebuffed.
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rapsuperstar31 wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 5:40 pm [Charania] Free agent guard Collin Gillespie intends to sign a four-year, $48 million deal to return to the Phoenix Suns, sources tell ESPN. Gillespie spent three straight seasons on two-way contracts after going undrafted out of Villanova in 2022 and now earns a lucrative long-term deal.

First off season signing, and a pretty good deal. I'd be happy having Collin at that price here. Hopefully we hear the same about Ayo soon.
That's a good deal for both sides. That's good money for a guy that hasn't made a whole lot of anything and he has a role already. I know why but I was honestly pretty surprised he went undrafted. He was a guy I thought could be a pretty good player.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:19 pm A three-way trade idea - Wolves, Celtics, Bulls - assuming the Celtics don’t end up with Giannis.

- Wolves Get: Derrick White, Isaac Okoro, Jalen Smith, Bulls pick #15.
- Celtics Get: Julius Randle, Tre Jones
- Bulls Get: Rudy Gobert, Celtics #27 pick and Wolves Pick #28.

Wolves get the PG they want and a decent young vet center in Smith as a bridge to the development of Beringer and Rocco. Isaac Okoro brings toughness but he’s mainly a filler that I’m sure Chicago would be happy to part with at his salary.

Having failed to get Giannis, the Celtics get a high-level scoring PF still in his prime without losing Brown. They get Tre Jones to fill the slot vacated by the departing White and still have Pritchard.

Bulls get an elite defensive center who will help them win and mentor the younger players as they continue their rebuild. They also get two lower first round picks in exchange for one mid-1st.
Okoro just has one year left of that deal so that's not really much of a problem. One of the positives about this trade is that Okoro and Smith are both just on 1 year deals so that clears some salary after this season.

As for Lip's concern about White being inefficient this last season and the playoffs is fair concern. On the other hand he has a pretty good track record of being much better than that and despite his struggles he had to be one of the reasons the Celtics were a surprise this season. It's also a reason why he might be attainable for a somewhat reasonable price. He turns 32 next month I guess it's possible that his game just drops off but that seems a little unlikely. Honestly if there was one guard we could acquire it would be White. It would be pretty sweet if somehow they could get him and keep Rudy. 2 all defensive first team players on the same roster? Yes please.
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The lazy headline on Hoopshype:

Wolves have gauged trade value of Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo, and first-rounder

The Timberwolves have gauged the trade value of Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo, and their No. 28 first-round pick in the draft, league sources told HoopsHype.



This does highlight the "Donte Dilemma". His injury was so devastating -- not only did it contribute to the playoff failure, it is forcing the Wolves to address his absence next season. We would be in a much better place if both Donte and Ayo were ready to play next season! But beyond the on-court impact, there's the question of what to do with his contract?

If you keep him it's a guarantee the team is in the first apron and flirting with the 2nd apron, not to mention being a luxury tax repeater. And after all that, he is a FA after next season, so you have to work out an extension next offseason, with no guarantee he will be back. If the desire is to keep him, it probably makes sense to work out an extension now, rather than next offseason. Otherwise, I think you have to move his contract as either salary filler, or a salary dump to make room for cap flexibility the rest of this offseason.

It really sucks for everyone involved...
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Monster wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 12:02 am
Lipoli390 wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 9:19 pm A three-way trade idea - Wolves, Celtics, Bulls - assuming the Celtics don’t end up with Giannis.

- Wolves Get: Derrick White, Isaac Okoro, Jalen Smith, Bulls pick #15.
- Celtics Get: Julius Randle, Tre Jones
- Bulls Get: Rudy Gobert, Celtics #27 pick and Wolves Pick #28.

Wolves get the PG they want and a decent young vet center in Smith as a bridge to the development of Beringer and Rocco. Isaac Okoro brings toughness but he’s mainly a filler that I’m sure Chicago would be happy to part with at his salary.

Having failed to get Giannis, the Celtics get a high-level scoring PF still in his prime without losing Brown. They get Tre Jones to fill the slot vacated by the departing White and still have Pritchard.

Bulls get an elite defensive center who will help them win and mentor the younger players as they continue their rebuild. They also get two lower first round picks in exchange for one mid-1st.
Okoro just has one year left of that deal so that's not really much of a problem. One of the positives about this trade is that Okoro and Smith are both just on 1 year deals so that clears some salary after this season.

As for Lip's concern about White being inefficient this last season and the playoffs is fair concern. On the other hand he has a pretty good track record of being much better than that and despite his struggles he had to be one of the reasons the Celtics were a surprise this season. It's also a reason why he might be attainable for a somewhat reasonable price. He turns 32 next month I guess it's possible that his game just drops off but that seems a little unlikely. Honestly if there was one guard we could acquire it would be White. It would be pretty sweet if somehow they could get him and keep Rudy. 2 all defensive first team players on the same roster? Yes please.
I think you’re probably right we don’t have to worry about White, but his fall-off last season is still a little troubling to me. Otherwise, he does seem like the perfect fit for the Wolves.

Perhaps we could get White solely for Randle and #28. Randle seems like a great fit for the Celtics with Tatum at SF and Brown at SG. That’s a high-powered offensive trio. I think that would be a fair deal and I wouldn’t be willing to give up anything more. We shouldn’t undervalue Randle as we’re shopping him.

The reason I came up with the three-team was because I would think the Celtics would not want to be left with only Pritchard at PG. Tre Young is very good and far better than any PG they could sign as a free agent given their cap situation. That might help Boston pull the trigger on dealing White for Randle.

I like the idea of getting the 15th pick to grab a PG like Philon or Christian Anderson for the future. Given our depleted draft cupboard, it’s important for this organization to bring in young talent whenever they get the chance.
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60WinTim wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 7:25 am The lazy headline on Hoopshype:

Wolves have gauged trade value of Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo, and first-rounder

The Timberwolves have gauged the trade value of Julius Randle, Donte DiVincenzo, and their No. 28 first-round pick in the draft, league sources told HoopsHype.



This does highlight the "Donte Dilemma". His injury was so devastating -- not only did it contribute to the playoff failure, it is forcing the Wolves to address his absence next season. We would be in a much better place if both Donte and Ayo were ready to play next season! But beyond the on-court impact, there's the question of what to do with his contract?

If you keep him it's a guarantee the team is in the first apron and flirting with the 2nd apron, not to mention being a luxury tax repeater. And after all that, he is a FA after next season, so you have to work out an extension next offseason, with no guarantee he will be back. If the desire is to keep him, it probably makes sense to work out an extension now, rather than next offseason. Otherwise, I think you have to move his contract as either salary filler, or a salary dump to make room for cap flexibility the rest of this offseason.

It really sucks for everyone involved...
lol. Definitely gets the lazy headline award. Wolves fans uttered a collective duh upon reading it. :)

The Donte injury is a terrible blow to this team for the reasons you discussed, Tim. But I don’t want the Wolves to trade Donte if we have to give up more assets to get a team to take him or effectively diminish the value of a Wolves outgoing trade package. If a team is willing to give us extra value to get Donte as a longer-term strategy then great. Otherwise, we shouldn’t undervalue Randle keep him and make moves to improve the team without going over the 2nd apron. I can live with going over the 1st apron, which is inevitable.
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