Back at it again! - Spurs at Wolves Game 3 GDT

[Monster]

All in all a good playoff game although I would have liked a different outcome. The Wolves definitely have a chance to win this series.

A couple thoughts.

Terrance Shannon Jr is doing what he is doing against a very good team in the playoffs. I hope he can stay healthy because I'm starting to feel like the upside some were talking about for him around a year ago is there. The passing and playmaking seems real. He still has to put it together but he was also doing little things like drawing offensive fouls.

Ayo did get going but it took a while. He is hurt but it feels like we need more from him.

TJ has has put together some great defensive minutes as well, something seems to have clicked for him on that end ever since Finch publicly challenged him

I had my doubts about TJ after this past season, but he is proving to be a valuable player deserving of the minutes as long as he stays healthy. I do hope he starts attacking the basket a bit more this series, I want to see him dunk it on Wemby before the series is done.

I would also like to see him Dunk on Wemby. The one he tried to put on Kornet would have been pretty sweet. I thought this game was actually a pretty good one for him in terms of him letting the game come to him and picking some spots. Remember he drove and dishes and could have easily had a couple more assists. His vision to find open guys and make pretty accurate passes this playoffs has been a nice surprise. We saw it in preseason play but this is the NBA playoffs. With his burst having the ability to actually pass and play make is something that raises him to something else in terms of a long term player. Who thought he would be basically running PG at times in the playoffs in year 2? He is really finding the gear on defense it seemed like we expected him to have even maybe as a rookie. We are still talking about potential but he is doing things right now in the NBA playoffs and in this series against a really good Spurs team.

[Monster]

I remember Kareem at age 24, and I don't remember him having near the overall impact on the game like Wemby. Every team is going to be looking for a guy that can try to match up with him. Otherwise you have no shot.

Tim foresaw that when he drafted Joan and Rocco for the future.

Wemby is clearly headed for greatness. It's also worth mentioning that in this game the Wolves out rebounded the Spurs, outscored them in 2nd chance points by a large margin and Wemby finished the game with 5 fouls. The Spurs have a lot of talent but idk if any of them other than Wemby have totally broken out into star or really good players. I'd guess at least one does but it's not certain and I like all those guys.

[BeenLurkin]

We are moving the wrong direction in comparison to OKC and SA.

Remember when Denver or the Celtics were the next dynasty? The Grizzlies?

Things change faster than we anticipate, players don't develop as expected. There is a plausible future where Ant is a better players than SGA in one to two years, Jaden overtakes Jdub and overall their core is too expensive to keep together. Personalities and egos have a way of disrupting even the most well lain plans

Exactly why a decision made in panic could end up back firing and shouldn’t be made just to see what happens. The wolves were “built” to beat the nuggets when it looked like they were the big bad. They accomplished that task. The team took that task personally and objectively “won” the rivalry.

Our new rivals (depending on when we move to the East) are these Spurs. This team is the new big bad that a team needs to be “built” to beat. Current line up even with Donte and Ayo and Ant fully healthy doesn’t really have an answer to Wemby and 3 brutal defending wings tha can all hit threes.

OKC still sits behind the spurs as the final boss…for now. But two years from now who can tell? Does the league realize no one wants to watc FlopBall? They already were supposed to make flops more called and maybe it evolves into practice in the next season or two. That would benifit the current lineups of both Wolves and Spurs. Also how long can Spurs keep a roster with three consecutive Lottery picks together financially? Maybe just as long as Wolves can keep our core together and in their prime?

So, do you make big showy moves to beat a team that in two years won’t even be in your conference? Or do we look more closely at the East and build a team to beat Knicks, or Pacers?

All this is what Tim Connelly is paid big money to be planning for. There’s so many variables. Anyone out there know what the Apron looks like for us next year? It looks like most of our guys are coming back minus Conely, Bones, Kyle Anderson but that doesn’t take much money off the books.

[Crazysauce]

Trade Randle plus for Irving . That is the answer

[WildWolf2813]

Trade Randle plus for Irving . That is the answer

Easier said than done.

We’ve also almost cleared ourselves of any “pluses”

At the very least, get Malik Beasley’s agent on the phone.

[AussieWolf3]

Trade Randle plus for Irving . That is the answer

In what world?

[Wolvesfan21]

Trade Randle plus for Irving . That is the answer

In what world?

It would have to be a 3 team trade. Young players and picks going to Mavs who are really not that close to being a contender. It really makes sense for them to move him. They need more pieces. So assuming they do move him, we have to be in the convo.

I guess the question is does anyone really want Randle. We've sort of seen the worst of him for these last 4 months, while last playoffs and to start the year he was super solid even dare I say great (minus OKC series of course).

[AussieWolf3]

Trade Randle plus for Irving . That is the answer

In what world?

It would have to be a 3 team trade. Young players and picks going to Mavs who are really not that close to being a contender. It really makes sense for them to move him. They need more pieces. So assuming they do move him, we have to be in the convo.

I guess the question is does anyone really want Randle. We've sort of seen the worst of him for these last 4 months, while last playoffs and to start the year he was super solid even dare I say great (minus OKC series of course).

I'm sure if they want to, they can. In what world is Irving "the answer"

[rapsuperstar31]

In what world?

It would have to be a 3 team trade. Young players and picks going to Mavs who are really not that close to being a contender. It really makes sense for them to move him. They need more pieces. So assuming they do move him, we have to be in the convo.

I guess the question is does anyone really want Randle. We've sort of seen the worst of him for these last 4 months, while last playoffs and to start the year he was super solid even dare I say great (minus OKC series of course).

I'm sure if they want to, they can. In what world is Irving "the answer"

If Irviings healthy I think you can win a title with Irviing. Kyrie really balanced Luka in their playoff run. Healthy is a big if at his age, especially since he just missed this entire season. If we're making a trade for a good to great player, I'd rather go with a younger player. But that is a discussion for the off season, which hopefully continues beyond this series.

[Monster]

In what world?

It would have to be a 3 team trade. Young players and picks going to Mavs who are really not that close to being a contender. It really makes sense for them to move him. They need more pieces. So assuming they do move him, we have to be in the convo.

I guess the question is does anyone really want Randle. We've sort of seen the worst of him for these last 4 months, while last playoffs and to start the year he was super solid even dare I say great (minus OKC series of course).

I'm sure if they want to, they can. In what world is Irving "the answer"

I get the appeal of Kyrie but I think there are a few problems with this trade.

1. It seems like trading one problem for another. Naz would be a starter but there is no proven backup PF. The Wolves have perimeter guys that already don't get minutes and now we are adding another guard. Donte could be traded even injured but that may not be the best asset management.

2. Kyrie costs more money and that may limit how the Wolves can add to the roster beyond this deal.

3. Is Ayo coming back of they trade for Ayo? That could be a problem especially since they are trading away their PF and this season idk if sign and trades are gonna be as much of a thing since lots of teams have money.*

4. Kyrie is 34 now and has had issues staying healthy. His game likely will age well on the offensive end. His defense has always come and gone but the team isn't gonna get better defensively with him on it.

*Speaking of which if there are a lot of teams with money to throw around Randle's cost at a short term deal might be reasonably attractive. Let's be honest despite some playoff issues the guy put up a pretty good regular season again and I'm not gonna say he has played great the last couple games he also has done more than his stats may suggest.

The Wolves have a 1st round pick to add to a pretty good roster that's still 2-1 against a completely healthy Spurs team. They could add someone in FA for cheap and keep pretty much everyone together except maybe Bones. The Wolves do have a track record of finding worthwhile guards and turning them into valued contributors. It's seems possible they could do that again and one option is Pullin on a 2 way deal.