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crazysauce wrote:Honestly if lavine wasnt so damn likable i think i would want to do the deal.
TheFuture wrote:That was a reach by Boston, no?
Not sure what ATL gave up for Prince but i love him as a player.
longstrangetrip wrote:60WinTim wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:I'm back to Butler and Valentine for Dunn and ZAch...and I like it.
Butler is a top 15 player to team with 2 other potential top 15ers, and Valentine brings us smarts and shooting. I'm way on board
LST - it is no happening. Lip is reading a fake woj account!
I thought the only deal in the fake account was Zach, Dunn and a second for Butler.
mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:
You really think that's Lavine's ceiling? He's a freakish athlete who also happens to love the game and is a gym rat. If anyone can make this kid a star it's Thibs. No way do I make any deal involving him at this point.
Lavine will never be a better player than Butler is now, unless you don't value defense. Even if Lavine improves his defense, he still won't be an all-NBA defender. Butler is not only a defensive standout, but he's a very good all around offensive player as well. He's not a three point shooter, but he's a stud in almost every other respect. Butler's a 20 ppg/4-5 assist/5-6 rebound a game guy in your backcourt. Lavine may become a better scorer than Butler, but I don't see how his upside can reach what Butler already is.. And speaking of gym rats, Butler is known for being a tireless worker.
I'm not so sure about that. There were times I saw some +defender potential out of him. Strength is probably the factor limiting him the most currently. If he can continue getting stronger and learn to improve his defense from Thibs, the sky could be the limit.
Wonder if Coolbreaz is here right now, because there's zero chance that Zach becomes as good or better of a defender than Butler. I honestly feel that's more fact than opinion. If Zach gets to that level, that would be unfathonable.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:How could we offer Dunn and Rubio? Makes no sense
Volans19 wrote:TheFuture wrote:Volans19 wrote:Don't just skip over my posts guys sometimes I know things. I'm smart, not like they say. Like I'm dumb
How are you today?
mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:
You really think that's Lavine's ceiling? He's a freakish athlete who also happens to love the game and is a gym rat. If anyone can make this kid a star it's Thibs. No way do I make any deal involving him at this point.
Lavine will never be a better player than Butler is now, unless you don't value defense. Even if Lavine improves his defense, he still won't be an all-NBA defender. Butler is not only a defensive standout, but he's a very good all around offensive player as well. He's not a three point shooter, but he's a stud in almost every other respect. Butler's a 20 ppg/4-5 assist/5-6 rebound a game guy in your backcourt. Lavine may become a better scorer than Butler, but I don't see how his upside can reach what Butler already is.. And speaking of gym rats, Butler is known for being a tireless worker.
I'm not so sure about that. There were times I saw some +defender potential out of him. Strength is probably the factor limiting him the most currently. If he can continue getting stronger and learn to improve his defense from Thibs, the sky could be the limit.
Wonder if Coolbreaz is here right now, because there's zero chance that Zach becomes as good or better of a defender than Butler. I honestly feel that's more fact than opinion. If Zach gets to that level, that would be unfathonable.
