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Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:49 am
by Q-is-here
WildWolf2813 wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:44 pm I really hope we're not gonna be the first home team to lose.
Yeah, it's been quite remarkable so far. The regular season really does matter!

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:50 am
by Coolbreeze44
The Lakers complaining about the officiating is rich.

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:16 am
by AbeVigodaLive
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:50 am The Lakers complaining about the officiating is rich.
Maybe the NBA will publicly apologize about more sleepless nights... immediately before the Lakers go on another unprecedented streak of FTA disparity improvement.

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:48 am
by rapsuperstar31
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:50 am The Lakers complaining about the officiating is rich.
I thought the Murray foul was pretty weak with about a minute left, but Lebron also got a weak and 1 with a few minutes left as well.

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:27 am
by davemang
Daryl morey filing a grievance over the officiating in the first two sixer knicks games. Guess 12 ft a game for embiid isn’t enough. Not that it matters, Celtics are gonna get to the finals without a loss.

The nuggets offensive really went stagnant in the 4th (kinda looked like how the wives get in when of game scenarios), but just insane shot making by Murray to sneak the win out. If the lakers had some depth, they could have buried Denver in that game.

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:36 pm
by Q-is-here
davemang wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:27 am Daryl morey filing a grievance over the officiating in the first two sixer knicks games. Guess 12 ft a game for embiid isn’t enough. Not that it matters, Celtics are gonna get to the finals without a loss.

The nuggets offensive really went stagnant in the 4th (kinda looked like how the wives get in when of game scenarios), but just insane shot making by Murray to sneak the win out. If the lakers had some depth, they could have buried Denver in that game.
I think a lot of the fouls Embiid draws are actual fouls, but what makes it frustrating and somewhat fraudulent is how he explicitly goes for the fouls by sweeping his shot motion up in an unnatural manner when a defender is in his grill.

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:43 pm
by SameOldNudityDrew
Anybody else think EVERYBODY should just stop whining about calls? Man the fuck up, shut up, and play. That goes for our guys too, who have been somewhat better about this lately. Jim Pete needs to check himself on this a little too. But it feels like it's all over the league these days. Embiid crying and saying this is "unacceptable" is ridiculous. Players don't get to say what's acceptable or not when it comes to reffing. Players play, refs ref.

Of course, there are bad calls, and some refs go on a bit of an ego trip sometimes and forget who the fans are there to see, but honestly, some of these calls are really tough to make, and in the long run, what goes around comes around. You get some bad calls, you lose some bad calls. It's human nature to be biased towards yourself, so I understand why somebody might feel upset about a call that, if the jerseys were reversed, they'd be totally fine with. The fact that everybody has that double standard though, should be reason and logic enough for people to temper their frustration after the moment has passed and not complain after the game. And even in the moment itself, people need to be more stoic.

Sorry if this sounds a bit rant-y, but even beyond complaining about calls, whatever happened to the ability to just get on with it? It seems like so many people these days are so quick to think that THEY are getting screwed and even quicker to complain and whine about it. Everybody feels so entitled these days. Who asks themselves what they owe others anymore? I think it's time to emulate the strong silent type a bit more, and not whining about calls, especially after the game, would be a decent place to start!

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:01 pm
by rapsuperstar31
SameOldNudityDrew wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:43 pm Anybody else think EVERYBODY should just stop whining about calls? Man the fuck up, shut up, and play. That goes for our guys too, who have been somewhat better about this lately. Jim Pete needs to check himself on this a little too. But it feels like it's all over the league these days. Embiid crying and saying this is "unacceptable" is ridiculous. Players don't get to say what's acceptable or not when it comes to reffing. Players play, refs ref.

Of course, there are bad calls, and some refs go on a bit of an ego trip sometimes and forget who the fans are there to see, but honestly, some of these calls are really tough to make, and in the long run, what goes around comes around. You get some bad calls, you lose some bad calls. It's human nature to be biased towards yourself, so I understand why somebody might feel upset about a call that, if the jerseys were reversed, they'd be totally fine with. The fact that everybody has that double standard though, should be reason and logic enough for people to temper their frustration after the moment has passed and not complain after the game. And even in the moment itself, people need to be more stoic.

Sorry if this sounds a bit rant-y, but even beyond complaining about calls, whatever happened to the ability to just get on with it? It seems like so many people these days are so quick to think that THEY are getting screwed and even quicker to complain and whine about it. Everybody feels so entitled these days. Who asks themselves what they owe others anymore? I think it's time to emulate the strong silent type a bit more, and not whining about calls, especially after the game, would be a decent place to start!
I don't really agree, I think you are certainly entitled to that opinion. I agree to an extent, I don't think Ant, Kat, etc should be complaining to the refs for 30 seconds while the other team goes down court and scores. Refs aren't gong to be perfect, but it's pretty obvious when the refs are reffing in a way to keep the games somewhat close. The NBA doesn't want a bunch of blowout wins, they want the excitement of last second shots. A lot of times refs will change the way they ref to help a team get back into it.

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:56 pm
by Coolbreeze44
I tend to believe the officials know better than to screw certain teams and players. In other words, if you have a 50/50 call down the stretch, it better go in favor of Lebron or the Lakers. I really believe there is an understanding among officials about how to err. It may not be blatantly obvious, but it doesn't have to be. A couple key calls can drastically swing an NBA game. It's really not as hard to influence games as you might think.

Re: Around the League - '23-24 Season

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:59 am
by FNG
SameOldNudityDrew wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:43 pm Anybody else think EVERYBODY should just stop whining about calls? Man the fuck up, shut up, and play. That goes for our guys too, who have been somewhat better about this lately. Jim Pete needs to check himself on this a little too. But it feels like it's all over the league these days. Embiid crying and saying this is "unacceptable" is ridiculous. Players don't get to say what's acceptable or not when it comes to reffing. Players play, refs ref.

Of course, there are bad calls, and some refs go on a bit of an ego trip sometimes and forget who the fans are there to see, but honestly, some of these calls are really tough to make, and in the long run, what goes around comes around. You get some bad calls, you lose some bad calls. It's human nature to be biased towards yourself, so I understand why somebody might feel upset about a call that, if the jerseys were reversed, they'd be totally fine with. The fact that everybody has that double standard though, should be reason and logic enough for people to temper their frustration after the moment has passed and not complain after the game. And even in the moment itself, people need to be more stoic.

Sorry if this sounds a bit rant-y, but even beyond complaining about calls, whatever happened to the ability to just get on with it? It seems like so many people these days are so quick to think that THEY are getting screwed and even quicker to complain and whine about it. Everybody feels so entitled these days. Who asks themselves what they owe others anymore? I think it's time to emulate the strong silent type a bit more, and not whining about calls, especially after the game, would be a decent place to start!
I agree 100% with your take, Drew...I find the whining, complaining and posturing exhausting, and agree that it is a reflection of the entitlement and victimization so widespread today. I much prefer the baseball model. What happens when you complain about a call in baseball? You get thrown out of the game! That seems to control the whining just fine. I would do the same thing in basketball. Currently referees will assess a technical foul, but only if the player is too demonstrative or uses one of the words you can't say on TV. I would give basketball referees similar power that baseball umpires have...assess a technical foul for complaining about a call, and throw the player out if it happens more than once. I guarantee it would almost eliminate whining like it has done in baseball, and make the product much more watchable. I actually think it would make Ant a better player too if he couldn't whine EVERY drive he doesn't get a call.