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CoolBreeze44 wrote:How could we offer Dunn and Rubio? Makes no sense
jester1534 wrote:Renkln wrote:http://www.1500espn.com/news/2016/06/report-wolves-unwilling-to-package-zach-lavine-with-pick-in-trade-for-bulls-jimmy-butler/
Are you Judd Zulgad?
CoolBreeze44 wrote:mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:
You really think that's Lavine's ceiling? He's a freakish athlete who also happens to love the game and is a gym rat. If anyone can make this kid a star it's Thibs. No way do I make any deal involving him at this point.
Lavine will never be a better player than Butler is now, unless you don't value defense. Even if Lavine improves his defense, he still won't be an all-NBA defender. Butler is not only a defensive standout, but he's a very good all around offensive player as well. He's not a three point shooter, but he's a stud in almost every other respect. Butler's a 20 ppg/4-5 assist/5-6 rebound a game guy in your backcourt. Lavine may become a better scorer than Butler, but I don't see how his upside can reach what Butler already is.. And speaking of gym rats, Butler is known for being a tireless worker.
I'm not so sure about that. There were times I saw some +defender potential out of him. Strength is probably the factor limiting him the most currently. If he can continue getting stronger and learn to improve his defense from Thibs, the sky could be the limit.
Wonder if Coolbreaz is here right now, because there's zero chance that Zach becomes as good or better of a defender than Butler. I honestly feel that's more fact than opinion. If Zach gets to that level, that would be unfathonable.
I'm here, but what does this have to do with me?
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The Bulls' talks to acquire Kris Dunn were more serious with the Celtics than the Timberwolves, per source.
Much ado about nothing?
TheFuture wrote:Ellenson feels great for Detroit no?
Volans19 wrote:K.C. Johnson Verified account
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The Bulls' talks to acquire Kris Dunn were more serious with the Celtics than the Timberwolves, per source.
Much ado about nothing?
mrhockey89 wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:mrhockey89 wrote:TheGrey08 wrote:
You really think that's Lavine's ceiling? He's a freakish athlete who also happens to love the game and is a gym rat. If anyone can make this kid a star it's Thibs. No way do I make any deal involving him at this point.
Lavine will never be a better player than Butler is now, unless you don't value defense. Even if Lavine improves his defense, he still won't be an all-NBA defender. Butler is not only a defensive standout, but he's a very good all around offensive player as well. He's not a three point shooter, but he's a stud in almost every other respect. Butler's a 20 ppg/4-5 assist/5-6 rebound a game guy in your backcourt. Lavine may become a better scorer than Butler, but I don't see how his upside can reach what Butler already is.. And speaking of gym rats, Butler is known for being a tireless worker.
I'm not so sure about that. There were times I saw some +defender potential out of him. Strength is probably the factor limiting him the most currently. If he can continue getting stronger and learn to improve his defense from Thibs, the sky could be the limit.
Wonder if Coolbreaz is here right now, because there's zero chance that Zach becomes as good or better of a defender than Butler. I honestly feel that's more fact than opinion. If Zach gets to that level, that would be unfathonable.
I'm here, but what does this have to do with me?
You said me and TheGrey are the same person, remember? :)