NBA Finals - Jerry Zgota

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Mikkeman wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Yeah. It's not a fluke thing we're dealing with here. The Warriors are 82 - 20. They're beating the teams in front of them. Often, they did so rather handily. Asterisk season?

No.

MANY, MANY championship teams win titles because of good fortune. Nobody is clamoring for Magic Johnson's Lakers to have asterisks because Kevin McHale broke his foot one year and the Houston Rockets backcourt snorted too much coke and Sampson got injured. It's part of basketball. Teams that win get good fortune. Unless you're claiming that the Warriors have won more than 80% of their games solely on "good fortune"... I'm not seeing the case why they'd have an asterisk should they win.


[Note: I've said it before... David Lee is a borderline All Star. He was an 18/9 guy for a good playoff team only a year ago. He was 11th man for most of these playoffs. That team is ridiculously talented. To be fair, I don't have an answer for L. Barbosa though...]


Abe, I agree very much with this. For example 1988-89 Detroit Pistons played Celtics that were missing Bird in 1st round, Milwaukee that was missing their best player Terry Cummings and lost starter Krystkowiak in beginning of 3rd game in 2nd round. They had pretty tight conference finals against Chicago that lost Pippen in the beginning of 6th game. In finals they played Lakers that was already missing Byron Scott and lost Magic in 3rd game. Even with that Detroit team having all its best players available during playoffs and all the bad luck that its opponents had, you cannot say that they wouldn't have earned their championship. They were the best team in whole NBA during regular season with record 63-19 and had 15-2 record in playoffs. I think that Golden State has not had as much luck than that Detroit team had and is really worthy of championship if they will win it all.



To circle back to those Lakers and good fortune using your Detroit example...

Should the Lakers have an asterisk for winning the 1988 title after a phantom foul call when the officials claimed Laimbeer fouled Jabbar... Isiah's ankle injury... and players storming the court DURING the Pistons desperate heave to tie the game at the end. Oh, and the Lakers tackled the shooter on that play too.

25+ years later... we only see the champion. All that other stuff gets swept under the rug.



[Note: Sorry. But I grew up REALLY REALLY hating the Lakers.]
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I'm curious if LST still thinks the Cavs don't miss Love?
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PorkChop wrote:I'm curious if LST still thinks the Cavs don't miss Love?


According to LST, the Cavs don't miss Kyrie or K-Love. Delly and TT are superior players in his eyes.
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Camden0916 wrote:
PorkChop wrote:I'm curious if LST still thinks the Cavs don't miss Love?


According to LST, the Cavs don't miss Kyrie or K-Love. Delly and TT are superior players in his eyes.

I think they miss both of them down the stretch and offensively but Delly and TT are superior defensive players and appear to want "it" more
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northernhoops wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
PorkChop wrote:I'm curious if LST still thinks the Cavs don't miss Love?


According to LST, the Cavs don't miss Kyrie or K-Love. Delly and TT are superior players in his eyes.

I think they miss both of them down the stretch and offensively but Delly and TT are superior defensive players and appear to want "it" more

should defense just brush aside the fact that no one else can score 20 points this series?
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Shumpert has driven his value into the ground.
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Tristan and Mosgov are really wanting it right now offensively .hehe
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PorkChop wrote:I'm curious if LST still thinks the Cavs don't miss Love?


Who wouldn't miss him...he's a proven winner that always makes his teammates better, and he led his team to 53 wins this year. His passion on the bench as he encourages his teammates in this series has been heartwarming to watch.
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longstrangetrip wrote:
PorkChop wrote:I'm curious if LST still thinks the Cavs don't miss Love?


Who wouldn't miss him...he's a proven winner that always makes his teammates better, and he led his team to 53 wins this year. His passion on the bench as he encourages his teammates in this series has been heartwarming to watch.
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The desperate attempts of a man trying to salvage his argument.
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