bleedspeed177 wrote:I think Lavine, Wiggins, Shabazz, and Budinger all are or will be good enough shooter that need to be respected. I am just saying if you surround Rubio with players that can cut to the rim and finish. Rubio will find them.
alexftbl8181 wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:I think Lavine, Wiggins, Shabazz, and Budinger all are or will be good enough shooter that need to be respected. I am just saying if you surround Rubio with players that can cut to the rim and finish. Rubio will find them.
Bazz hasn't shown he can be a shooter. Lavine is years away, I'm not expecting anything out of him this year. I like Bud though if he's healthy
bleedspeed177 wrote:Why wouldn't we want A, Harison, and Lee for Love if we want to win now? I am not sold on Klay.
longstrangetrip wrote:alexftbl8181 wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:I think Lavine, Wiggins, Shabazz, and Budinger all are or will be good enough shooter that need to be respected. I am just saying if you surround Rubio with players that can cut to the rim and finish. Rubio will find them.
Bazz hasn't shown he can be a shooter. Lavine is years away, I'm not expecting anything out of him this year. I like Bud though if he's healthy
Alex, you continue to stay with the mantra that Shabazz hasn't shown he can be a shooter, despite evidence to the contrary. A couple weeks ago, I proposed a contest. You name a rookie non-center with a better shooting percentage than Shabazz last year, and I will name three with a worse percentage. Okay? You're on the clock...back up your claim.
How about three's, you ask? Well, Shabazz shot them poorly last year. But I have compared his rookie 3-point experience to Kevin Love's. Although both shot the three well in college, their rookie coaches didn't want them shooting three's in the pros, and both suffered. However to be fair to Shabazz, his rookie 3-point percentage was twice as good as Love's. And how well did Shabazz shoot 3's in his one year in college? I've provided the data on that one also. He shot them at exactly the same percentage as CJ McCollum, a guy who made it to the lottery primarily based on his ability to make 3's.
Shabazz is not above criticism offensively. He wasn't comfortable with his right hand last year, isn't (and may never be) an adequate passer, and his mid-range game is not elite. But he has proven one thing beyond question...at every level he has played he has shown he is a volume scorer. No NBA rookie scored more points per minute than he did last year. But please don't criticize him for his shooting without refuting my data.
alexftbl8181 wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:alexftbl8181 wrote:bleedspeed177 wrote:I think Lavine, Wiggins, Shabazz, and Budinger all are or will be good enough shooter that need to be respected. I am just saying if you surround Rubio with players that can cut to the rim and finish. Rubio will find them.
Bazz hasn't shown he can be a shooter. Lavine is years away, I'm not expecting anything out of him this year. I like Bud though if he's healthy
Alex, you continue to stay with the mantra that Shabazz hasn't shown he can be a shooter, despite evidence to the contrary. A couple weeks ago, I proposed a contest. You name a rookie non-center with a better shooting percentage than Shabazz last year, and I will name three with a worse percentage. Okay? You're on the clock...back up your claim.
How about three's, you ask? Well, Shabazz shot them poorly last year. But I have compared his rookie 3-point experience to Kevin Love's. Although both shot the three well in college, their rookie coaches didn't want them shooting three's in the pros, and both suffered. However to be fair to Shabazz, his rookie 3-point percentage was twice as good as Love's. And how well did Shabazz shoot 3's in his one year in college? I've provided the data on that one also. He shot them at exactly the same percentage as CJ McCollum, a guy who made it to the lottery primarily based on his ability to make 3's.
Shabazz is not above criticism offensively. He wasn't comfortable with his right hand last year, isn't (and may never be) an adequate passer, and his mid-range game is not elite. But he has proven one thing beyond question...at every level he has played he has shown he is a volume scorer. No NBA rookie scored more points per minute than he did last year. But please don't criticize him for his shooting without refuting my data.
His % looks good not because he was a good shooter, but because he shot most of his shots in the post. Not a bad thing, but I wouldn't say Pek is a better shooter then Love because he shot a higher %.
I'm not going to take much into account his 3 point % because he only made 3 all year. I remember some real ugly looking 3's though. Comparing him to Love is silly too. Love is the historical outlier, not the normal.
I also don't care about him being compared to CJ as I also think he sucks and won't amount to anything in the NBA.
Also he scored the most points per minute because he shot it the most per minute, not because of a high %
sjm34 wrote:World, on your question of the Cavs re-signing Deng. THey could do something on that, but they have to have cap space to sign Lebron. So it would have to happen before that signing, and they would have to find a way to minimize what they brought back in salaries to keep their space open. I have not heard of them renounce him up to this point though. They will have to renounce when they sign James unless significant other moves are made.
longstrangetrip wrote:https://twitter.com/MikeCairns5/status/488104572632563712
Rumor is that Flip is asking for more.
Volans19 wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:https://twitter.com/MikeCairns5/status/488104572632563712
Rumor is that Flip is asking for more.
If the Warriors are seriously considering Thompson as more important than Love then why give him away for picks?
