Trade deadline discussion thread

[Phenom]

The Suns move off of Nurkic:


Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
The Phoenix Suns are trading Jusuf Nurkic and a 2026 first-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Cody Martin, Vasilije Micic and a 2026 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

I'm still going the other way on what Charlotte is doing. They are loading up on picks. This is what teams at the bottom should do. They know what is going on with Mark Williams and came to the conclusion he wasn't going to be worth it.

The only thing I hate is that while they're stocking up picks, they have no direction.


Brandon Miller
Dalton Knecht
TIdjane Salaun
Grant Williams
Miles Bridges

and they're gonna fall into another wing atop this year's draft.

There's a difference between depth and a clusterfucck. They've at least decided that Ball and Miller are the main guys, but if I'm Salaun, if I become a finished product, do I even fit on this team? Worse if they luck out and grab a Bailey or Edgecombe or God forbid Flagg.

All while they have no center to build with.

Even more telling about their thoughts on Mark Williams

[60WinTim]

Another domino falls. Wolves are waiting for the last dreggs?!?

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
The Atlanta Hawks are trading forward De'Andre Hunter to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Caris LeVert, Georges Niang, three second-round picks and two swaps, sources tell ESPN.

[DNatagal]

The Mavs GM proves that intelligent people can recognize when they do something stupid, stupid people do not, but still think they are the smartest on the room.

[Monster]

I've got my pitchfork, torch, and grenade launcher! I'm even packing a squirt gun!

As we've talked about a bunch here, it's not as much the motive that is being questioned, it's the return and lack of a competitive bidding process for Luka. No one will ever convince me (or their actual fans) that this was the best deal the Mavs could get for him.

Then the Lakers declare rather publicly that they needed a big to help backfill AD - and voila! - Charlotte suddenly makes Mark Williams available in exchange for inferior players and a draft pick next century!

I'm back on the conspiracy train!

Lakers have now fired all of their bullets other than Austin Reaves. They will give Williams a fat deal in a year because they will have no choice and he hasn't shown the defensive ability requisite for a Luka team. I wouldn't superglue the OBrien trophy down in LA yet.

Yeah, I don't consider the Lakers favorites after these trades, but it's beyond frustrating to see other teams trade their players at a discount to them.

Mark Williams will be a FA after next season and then someone was gonna have to pay him. Maybe that wouldn't have been an issue by then but it's something they likely considered when doing the deal. Teams also seem to valuing unprotected picks far down the line. The Jazz wanting that Lakers pick so bad isn't looking very smart after the Lakers now have added Luka and Williams.

Meanwhile Dalton Knecht is a nice player to get back in a deal. He is a rookie and VERY efficient. He was drafted about the same spot as Williams and is having success sooner partly because he is an older player but still he has started off well. He seems like one of those players that would fit just about any team so it would be good to have him on your roster or as a player to move later. Is Mark Williams an all star center or is he the next Ayton a good player but has some flaws and ends up very much overpaid? Idk I haven't really seen him play for probably a year and I see his numbers are good. I'm not sure what people think Mark Williams was worth. If you think this was a heist check out what Connelly gave up for the 8th pick in the last draft.

[Phenom]

Another domino falls. Wolves are waiting for the last dreggs?!?

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
The Atlanta Hawks are trading forward De'Andre Hunter to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Caris LeVert, Georges Niang, three second-round picks and two swaps, sources tell ESPN.

Hell of a deal for Cavs

[Monster]

And Christie hits all 4 of his 3's and adds 9 rebounds off the bench in his first game for the Mavs! Dallas gets Christie, who was a consensus 5-star recruit coming out of high school, a first round pick, and a cinch future HOFer who's averaging 26/10 while challenging Wemby for DPOY, in exchange for a remarkably talented player who is currently injured and has conditioning issues. I'm going to leave my pitchfork in the shed until I see how this deal plays out.

I've got my pitchfork, torch, and grenade launcher! I'm even packing a squirt gun!

As we've talked about a bunch here, it's not as much the motive that is being questioned, it's the return and lack of a competitive bidding process for Luka. No one will ever convince me (or their actual fans) that this was the best deal the Mavs could get for him.

Then the Lakers declare rather publicly that they needed a big to help backfill AD - and voila! - Charlotte suddenly makes Mark Williams available in exchange for inferior players and a draft pick next century!

I'm back on the conspiracy train!

Yep.

Max Christie could develop into an All Star player someday... and the trade would still be lopsided for LA. And... the other elephant in the room is that Davis is SEVEN years older than Doncic who is just now entering what is usually considered NBA prime years.

FWIW AD is just under SIX years older than Doncic but who's counting?

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm still going the other way on what Charlotte is doing. They are loading up on picks. This is what teams at the bottom should do. They know what is going on with Mark Williams and came to the conclusion he wasn't going to be worth it.

The only thing I hate is that while they're stocking up picks, they have no direction.


Brandon Miller
Dalton Knecht
TIdjane Salaun
Grant Williams
Miles Bridges

and they're gonna fall into another wing atop this year's draft.

There's a difference between depth and a clusterfucck. They've at least decided that Ball and Miller are the main guys, but if I'm Salaun, if I become a finished product, do I even fit on this team? Worse if they luck out and grab a Bailey or Edgecombe or God forbid Flagg.

All while they have no center to build with.

Even more telling about their thoughts on Mark Williams

Mark Williams is a very good player. But hey, the Lakers needed him so there he goes.

[Phenom]

The only thing I hate is that while they're stocking up picks, they have no direction.


Brandon Miller
Dalton Knecht
TIdjane Salaun
Grant Williams
Miles Bridges

and they're gonna fall into another wing atop this year's draft.

There's a difference between depth and a clusterfucck. They've at least decided that Ball and Miller are the main guys, but if I'm Salaun, if I become a finished product, do I even fit on this team? Worse if they luck out and grab a Bailey or Edgecombe or God forbid Flagg.

All while they have no center to build with.

Even more telling about their thoughts on Mark Williams

Mark Williams is a very good player. But hey, the Lakers needed him so there he goes.

He is a talented offensive player and Luka will get him buckets for sure.

[rapsuperstar31]

Even more telling about their thoughts on Mark Williams

Mark Williams is a very good player. But hey, the Lakers needed him so there he goes.

He is a talented offensive player and Luka will get him buckets for sure.

At least in the games Williams is healthy. He's only played in 85 of a possible 212 games so far in his career.

[60WinTim]

Another one drops!

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
The Los Angeles Clippers are trading Terance Mann and Bones Hyland to the Atlanta Hawks for Bogdan Bogdanovic and three second-round picks, sources tell ESPN.