Kevin Durant Rumors

[Lipoli390]

Twitter circling a rumor our offer was Gobert Donte Rob and/or TSJ and 17 for Durant. This seriously can't be our offer can it? This has to be Phoenix putting this out to drive up other offers cause TC would need to be on something to do this trade. Honestly (Gobert or Randle) and Divencenzo should be more than enough for Durant. Take it or leave it. I will be sick if we trade TSJ or Rob in this deal

I’m with you Crazy!

[Q-is-here]

Twitter circling a rumor our offer was Gobert Donte Rob and/or TSJ and 17 for Durant. This seriously can't be our offer can it? This has to be Phoenix putting this out to drive up other offers cause TC would need to be on something to do this trade. Honestly (Gobert or Randle) and Divencenzo should be more than enough for Durant. Take it or leave it. I will be sick if we trade TSJ or Rob in this deal

I’m with you Crazy!

I agree it's too much, but we can't expect a Durant deal to require much less than that. In fact if you swapped out Rudy for Randle that's probably getting close to fair market value. Or if you kept Rudy in the trade but dropped one of the young assets (Shannon/Dillingham or #17).

[Crazysauce]

I think you are way undervaluing our players. Rudy and Randle are both very good players. They have their flaws but these guys led us to the western conference finals. We are trading them for a guy that couldn't even lead his team to the play in game, is gonna be 37 and has been injured a lot lately and wants to get paid. Trading Rudy and Randle and expecting to have to throw in more is way too much. These player have trade value and would bring more in separate trades. We would really be selling them short in this deal.

[AbeVigodaLive]

He has not made any team better that he had forced himself to.

While I think we all have some level of apprehension for what it would take to bring Durant to Minnesota... I have to push back on this comment above.

He didn't make Brooklyn better? They went 48 - 24 in his first season there and were a toenail away from taking out the eventual champs in round 2. They were unquestionably better.

Heck, it can be argued that he made Golden State better, too. So that only leaves Phoenix.

[Lipoli390]

Twitter circling a rumor our offer was Gobert Donte Rob and/or TSJ and 17 for Durant. This seriously can't be our offer can it? This has to be Phoenix putting this out to drive up other offers cause TC would need to be on something to do this trade. Honestly (Gobert or Randle) and Divencenzo should be more than enough for Durant. Take it or leave it. I will be sick if we trade TSJ or Rob in this deal

I’m with you Crazy!

I agree it's too much, but we can't expect a Durant deal to require much less than that. In fact if you swapped out Rudy for Randle that's probably getting close to fair market value. Or if you kept Rudy in the trade but dropped one of the young assets (Shannon/Dillingham or #17).

I don’t know, Q. I’m not sure what the fair market value is for Durant right now. What other teams traded to get him in the past is really irrelevant. He remains a scoring machine, but he’s now turning 37 years old and we have to consider his age along with the reality of his last five seasons in which (1) his defensive rating has declined every single year with two different teams; (2) he hasn’t been able to stay on the court in four of them, missing 20 games last season, 35 games in 2022-23, 27 games in 2021-22 and 47 games in 2020-21; (3) he hasn’t won despite having teammates like Devin Booker and Kyrie Irving, failing to reach the Conference Finals in any of his last five seasons, getting swept by the Wolves in the 1st round two years ago and failing to even make the play-in tournament this past season. Even his offensive prowess is subject to a sudden steep decline at his age as evident in the long list former greats whose scoring suddenly plummeted at age 36, 37, 38 or 39 if not earlier. Add to all of that his huge salary and petulant personality.

There’s a reason the Suns haven’t liked the offers from the Spurs, Rockets or Miami. Those offers likely reflect the reality of who Durant is today rather than what he once was or even what the Suns naively thought he was worth two years ago. We can’t know exactly what Durant’s market value is right now but those three teams are giving us a really good sense of that value. Note that neither the Spurs nor the Heat appear willing to give up any of their new young talent. The Heat has said no on Ware, and the Spurs have said no on Castle even though they have Fox and are about to draft Harper. The Rockets have an oversupply of young talent AND lots of future draft picks so they’re in a unique position to give up young talent and still have a fully stocked cupboard of young talent and picks, but even the Rockets are unwilling to give up Sengun or Thompson.

The Wolves are in a unique position to offer the Suns a win-now veteran - either the League’s best defensive center (Rudy) or one of the League’s best offensive PFs (Randle) or both. The Suns should NOT expect significantly more than one of those, especially Rudy. Getting a great durable, 32 year old win-now defender at a position of need for the Suns to pair with Booker in exchange for a great 37 year old, more expensive, often injured offensive player who wants out strikes me as undeniably fair market value for Durant. I just don’t want the Wolves give more than market value for Durant. In fact, I think he’s worth less to the Wolves than to other teams if only because he doesn’t want to be here. Giving up TSJ, Dilly or Clark in addition to Rudy would be more than market value in my view. And when I factor in Durant’s aversion to coming here and his petulant attitude, along with Rudy’s critical importance to our defense, I wouldn’t give up Rudy either.

I’d like the Wolves organization to turn its full attention to the draft and to kicking the tires on guys like Derrick White and Bam Adebayo as well as less valuable players we might be able to get for Randle or as minimum vet free agents.

[Phenom]

I'm highly skeptical that a deal would include Dilly/Shannon AND the 17.

But if that's true, we can probably feel safe that the offer would change since KD doesn't want to be here. Whether or not that tips the scale in another team's favor remains to be seen.

[BloopOracle]

Toronto and now Memphis are pushing for KD lol, I bet he is reevaluating Minnesota now

[Wolvesfan21]

Twitter circling a rumor our offer was Gobert Donte Rob and/or TSJ and 17 for Durant. This seriously can't be our offer can it? This has to be Phoenix putting this out to drive up other offers cause TC would need to be on something to do this trade. Honestly (Gobert or Randle) and Divencenzo should be more than enough for Durant. Take it or leave it. I will be sick if we trade TSJ or Rob in this deal

I’m with you Crazy!

That would be too much. We all agree that Durant is a great player. Probably most would say top 10, BUT we don't know with his age and history. Does he regress and can he play 60+ games plus playoffs at age 37,38,39?

The risk with him is pretty much boom or bust, I almost say it's 50/50 too. You might get a top 10 player for a few years or you might hit bust. IDK if that risk is worth taking?

[60WinTim]

The draft if one week away. Every day that goes by without a KD trade increases the odds that KD will be a Wolf…

I can’t say I have a horse in this race. I am fine with a trade for KD as it would address an obvious need for this team — a consistent knock down shooter. But I also think TC has the assets and flexibility to address that need in other ways.

Anyway, one week and counting.

[TheFuture]

He has not made any team better that he had forced himself to.

While I think we all have some level of apprehension for what it would take to bring Durant to Minnesota... I have to push back on this comment above.

He didn't make Brooklyn better? They went 48 - 24 in his first season there and were a toenail away from taking out the eventual champs in round 2. They were unquestionably better.

Heck, it can be argued that he made Golden State better, too. So that only leaves Phoenix.

Maybe saying not making them better was unfair, because he is a great player. He is about as plug and play as they come.. But, as soon as things didn't go his way - he forced his way out via trade. This was also in a weaker East. The Wolves may not even have that option of recouping value as he might jet after one season, and I hate the idea of paying him the max as he approaches 40.

As for his GSW stint, he went there via free agency. They didn't gut their team/future to get him. So I don't view that in the same light.

I hate his mentality, and what he could do to the current culture, chemistry. Just interrupting the overall trajectory the team is finally on and has seen it actually bear fruit. I do not want Durant here if it means moving any of Rudy, Dilly, TSJ.