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Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:10 pm
by Coolbreeze44
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:06 pm
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:01 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 6:53 pm

I wasn't suggesting Ant was either of those players, I named them because they are a modern archetype of playing point guard and archetype that Ant clearly wants to imitate because he has talked very frequently about watching both players and trying to learn their games.

Whether that's a good idea, idk, but it's the direction he appears to want to go. That's all I'm saying.

Personally I would also rather have a real secondary ball handler who can initiate. I don't really care whether that player is nominally a point guard or not as long as they can facilitate and play defense, so Ant can be a scorer

As far as TJ is concerned- hes a legitimate backup guard who can start when needed, be glue guy and hopefully teach younger players a thing or two. Hes also a more realistic target because teams that have elite point guards arent gonna trade them

Ps can please be done with the whole "basketball IQ" it's such a empty term. Ant is still a young player who is learning the game he often shows a lot of savvy and instincts for the game and he also often shows a complete bone headedness. It comes with experience it's not some immutable trait that he or others can never improve upon. It's such a tiring trope
It doesn't matter what you want to call it - IQ, instincts, feeling, or aptitude. It's real as it pertains to many sports and it's not something you can typically develop.
Of course it's real, I didn't say it wasn't
It's just nonsensical to say it can't be improved. What bothers me is that most of the time people talk about it- it's void of any context, grounding or substance
I've been around the game a long time. The next time I see a player improve their basketball instinct will be a first for me. Through practice and repetition you can develop skill and of course knowledge, but basic instinct? No.

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:13 pm
by AussieWolf3
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:10 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:06 pm
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:01 pm

It doesn't matter what you want to call it - IQ, instincts, feeling, or aptitude. It's real as it pertains to many sports and it's not something you can typically develop.
Of course it's real, I didn't say it wasn't
It's just nonsensical to say it can't be improved. What bothers me is that most of the time people talk about it- it's void of any context, grounding or substance
I've been around the game a long time. The next time I see a player improve their basketball instinct will be a first for me. Through practice and repetition you can develop skill and of course knowledge, but basic instinct? No.
Yet you still offer no context

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:28 pm
by Coolbreeze44
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:13 pm
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:10 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:06 pm

Of course it's real, I didn't say it wasn't
It's just nonsensical to say it can't be improved. What bothers me is that most of the time people talk about it- it's void of any context, grounding or substance
I've been around the game a long time. The next time I see a player improve their basketball instinct will be a first for me. Through practice and repetition you can develop skill and of course knowledge, but basic instinct? No.
Yet you still offer no context
Do you know what the word context means? What is it you want?

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:31 pm
by AussieWolf3
rapsuperstar31 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:47 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:21 pm Tj McConnell would be such a perfect get imo.
He's older than I realized, but having him as a backup and essentially be Mike's successor.

I don't know if it's the right decision but the team certainly wants to transition Ant to being a Luka or Harden esque point guard so bringing in a legit backup is an ideal goal
Luka's best seasons were with an up and coming Jalen Brunson when the made it to the WCF, and with Kyrie Iriving when he beat us. This year he has Austin Reaves scoring a high volume from the point guard position. There is plenty of ball to go around and still have Ant in that role.
I completely agree, I'm just responding to the idea of McConnell and how Id see his fit, which would still feature Ant as the "lead guard" but having a high level floor general in TJ would be a good get.

I'd love to have an elite ball handler next to the kid but I don't see a realistic source to attain one

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:32 pm
by AussieWolf3
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:28 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:13 pm
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:10 pm

I've been around the game a long time. The next time I see a player improve their basketball instinct will be a first for me. Through practice and repetition you can develop skill and of course knowledge, but basic instinct? No.
Yet you still offer no context
Do you know what the word context means? What is it you want?
Choosing to be obtuse, nicely done

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:34 pm
by Phenom
Maybe Ant can have an extra accelerated Baldwin Effect. And hopefully his offspring have benefitted, am I right cool?

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:35 pm
by Coolbreeze44
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:32 pm
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:28 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:13 pm

Yet you still offer no context
Do you know what the word context means? What is it you want?
Choosing to be obtuse, nicely done
I'm in excellent shape. Now THAT is taking something out of context. Learn the difference.

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:44 pm
by AussieWolf3
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:35 pm
AussieWolf3 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:32 pm
Coolbreeze44 wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:28 pm

Do you know what the word context means? What is it you want?
Choosing to be obtuse, nicely done
I'm in excellent shape. Now THAT is taking something out of context. Learn the difference.
Play semantics all you want, I still have no reason to take you seriously when bring up this nebulous concept

Re: Trade season

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:47 pm
by Coolbreeze44
Phenom wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:34 pm Maybe Ant can have an extra accelerated Baldwin Effect. And hopefully his offspring have benefitted, am I right cool?
Hopefully the mothers contribute the majority of intelligence to the DNA, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Re: Trade season

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 8:27 am
by Q-is-here
Bones provided competent guard play off the bench last night against the team that has set THE standard of defensive excellence. Him passing that test is a big deal and reinforces the notion that while Tim Connelly shouldn't put down the phone, he should continue to be patient before pulling the trigger on something.

I still want to see more though before concluding that we just let Finch and Co. keep working their magic with the existing roster.