Whose The New Whipping Boy? (Wolves vs. Griz)

[Leado01]

I'm with Jester, he's costing this board way too much for the value we recieve.

[60WinTim]

So is this going to be the GDT? I thought something like "The Conley Era Begins - Wolves at Grizzlies GDT". You can still change it, sab...

Conley and NAW were unavailable to the media after shootaround because not everyone involved in the trade had completed their physicals (either the Lakers because they are on West coast time, or Westbrick being a douche). Some were wondering the they would even play tonight! But that hurdle has been cleared and they are available.

Gobert and SloMo are listed as "Questionable". I gotta feeling they will play, though. SloMo because it's in Memphis, and Gobert because his buddy will be on the floor.

Does Conley get the start? Or do we see Nowell get the start again? With everyone back, I am not sure we see NAW on the floor, let alone Minott. Unless we are talking garbage time, but that last I predicted garbage time it worked in reverse!

I would start Conley. Best to get some team tape to work with before the all-star break. There is the familiarity with Conley and Gobert already, more familiarity than between any other players on our team. So let's see the trial by fire action, and how the rest of the team fits around their PnR game.

I cannot wait for KAT to get back. I can see some lethal offensive play with KAT, Ant, and Jaden catch and shooting 3s/cutting/driving off of the Conley/Gobert PNR game.

Good point on the Gobert connection! No reason not to start him.

[Q-is-here]

I was just watching a recent game the Jazz had against the Mavs. I am happy to report the Conley did not require the use of a walker or cane!

He makes the simple play, has great awareness and focus on defense, can still hit a shot, has a floater, and can still throw lob passes. His plus/minus game with the starters will be a nice compliment to McLaughlin's plus/minus game with the bench. We'll just have to see how long an acclimation period will be needed.

This is really going to put the whole "game manager PG > scoring PG" hypothesis to the test. Both our PGs prefer to defer. Oh cool, that rhymes!

It's a lot easier to be "pass-first" when you legitimately struggle to score the basketball. Just throwing that out there. Ricky Rubio can attest to that as well.

I hope defenses don't load up on Anthony Edwards more than they already have while Karl-Anthony Towns is out. That relief valve is gone.

A legitimate concern, which is why I think Finch is going to give Nowell a ton of rope.

[TheFuture]

I was just watching a recent game the Jazz had against the Mavs. I am happy to report the Conley did not require the use of a walker or cane!

He makes the simple play, has great awareness and focus on defense, can still hit a shot, has a floater, and can still throw lob passes. His plus/minus game with the starters will be a nice compliment to McLaughlin's plus/minus game with the bench. We'll just have to see how long an acclimation period will be needed.

This is really going to put the whole "game manager PG > scoring PG" hypothesis to the test. Both our PGs prefer to defer. Oh cool, that rhymes!

It's a lot easier to be "pass-first" when you legitimately struggle to score the basketball. Just throwing that out there. Ricky Rubio can attest to that as well.

I hope defenses don't load up on Anthony Edwards more than they already have while Karl-Anthony Towns is out. That relief valve is gone.

Come on, Conley's shot/floater is nowhere near as broken as Rubios. I like to view him as some half and half combo of D'Lo and Rubio for us. Maybe just a poor man's Chris paul?

Ant is definitely going to have it rough until KAT is back, that's undeniable and will be the move by every opposing team. That may be a good thing for Ant though? I am hopeful the team can pick up the 12ish points we'll lose between DLo and Conley, now that there is only one iso heavy starter in Ant.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Mike Conley Jr. shot just 37.7% from the field, including 35.5% from three-point range, in 28 games from October to January. He posted a 48.0 eFG% and 51.7 TS%. 17 of those games were below 40-percent from the field.

He found his shot again in January shooting 42.5% from the field, including 39.3% from three in 12 games. He posted a 53.8 eFG% and 58.3 TS%. Six of those games were below 40-percent from the field.

His track record indicates that he should be closer to those January averages moving forward, and he typically doesn't shoot it with enough volume to help or hurt you, but it is something to keep an eye on. We know all too well about players coming to Minnesota and losing their shot, or at least slipping X number of percentage points.

And for those that believe in individual Defensive Ratings as an accurate indicator of defensive performance (I do not), Conley's 117.4 is pretty terrible. That's actually worse than the much-maligned player he's replacing.

[FNG]

I'm with Jester, he's costing this board way too much for the value we recieve.

I totally disagree, leado...we would be really dumb to give up the J-Man's salary slot!

[TheFuture]

Mike Conley Jr. shot just 37.7% from the field, including 35.5% from three-point range, in 28 games from October to January. He posted a 48.0 eFG% and 51.7 TS%. 17 of those games were below 40-percent from the field.

He found his shot again in January shooting 42.5% from the field, including 39.3% from three in 12 games. He posted a 53.8 eFG% and 58.3 TS%. Six of those games were below 40-percent from the field.

His track record indicates that he should be closer to those January averages moving forward, and he typically doesn't shoot it with enough volume to help or hurt you, but it is something to keep an eye on. We know all too well about players coming to Minnesota and losing their shot, or at least slipping X number of percentage points.

And for those that believe in individual Defensive Ratings as an accurate indicator of defensive performance (I do not), Conley's 117.4 is pretty terrible. That's actually worse than the much-maligned player he's replacing.

I think you're missing the overall point with replacing D'Lo with Conley. All reports show that D'Lo was not going to re-sign here. Reports from two teams now claim D'Lo's personality and play is not conducive to leading a team as a pg, which this team needs.

D'Lo is undoubtedly more talented and quite young, but moving forward with him beyond this deadline made zero sense. The team is stuck with Gobert (still fuck you TC), and I believe Conley fits the team this year and next better overall, while giving much needed time to figure out this roster.

D'Lo will always hunt for his. Conley will run a talented team much better and not worry about his. 11 points and 7 assists is fine from our point guard. Especially one who is not going to be throwing a lazy pass out of nowhere just because. D'Lo is a combo guard. This team needed an actual PG.

[Monster]

I'm with Jester, he's costing this board way too much for the value we recieve.

I totally disagree, leado...we would be really dumb to give up the J-Man's salary slot!

I heard from one of my friends that works in the philanthropy world that Jester donates 53.7% of that contract to various charities. He also paid for a few neighborhood sports field that are named after him. In addition he mentors animals at the local humane society!

On the other hand I heard he was caught being rude to a school crossing guard, once sucker punched a cow, and a couple times tipped really poorly at Taco Bell. I mean nobody's perfect.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Mike Conley Jr. shot just 37.7% from the field, including 35.5% from three-point range, in 28 games from October to January. He posted a 48.0 eFG% and 51.7 TS%. 17 of those games were below 40-percent from the field.

He found his shot again in January shooting 42.5% from the field, including 39.3% from three in 12 games. He posted a 53.8 eFG% and 58.3 TS%. Six of those games were below 40-percent from the field.

His track record indicates that he should be closer to those January averages moving forward, and he typically doesn't shoot it with enough volume to help or hurt you, but it is something to keep an eye on. We know all too well about players coming to Minnesota and losing their shot, or at least slipping X number of percentage points.

And for those that believe in individual Defensive Ratings as an accurate indicator of defensive performance (I do not), Conley's 117.4 is pretty terrible. That's actually worse than the much-maligned player he's replacing.

I think you're missing the overall point with replacing D'Lo with Conley. All reports show that D'Lo was not going to re-sign here. Reports from two teams now claim D'Lo's personality and play is not conducive to leading a team as a pg, which this team needs.

D'Lo is undoubtedly more talented and quite young, but moving forward with him beyond this deadline made zero sense. The team is stuck with Gobert (still fuck you TC), and I believe Conley fits the team this year and next better overall, while giving much needed time to figure out this roster.

D'Lo will always hunt for his. Conley will run a talented team much better and not worry about his. 11 points and 7 assists is fine from our point guard. Especially one who is not going to be throwing a lazy pass out of nowhere just because. D'Lo is a combo guard. This team needed an actual PG.

We can respectfully agree to disagree on just about everything you said here. I don't need to get into anymore spats about him. You feel the way you do, and I don't want to rehash it for the X amount of time.

And no, I understand why the team acquired Mike Conley Jr. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. There's no point being missed. There's no confusion about perceived fit or financial flexibility. I'm aware of it all.

[Jester1534]

I'm with Jester, he's costing this board way too much for the value we recieve.

I totally disagree, leado...we would be really dumb to give up the J-Man's salary slot!

I heard from one of my friends that works in the philanthropy world that Jester donates 53.7% of that contract to various charities. He also paid for a few neighborhood sports field that are named after him. In addition he mentors animals at the local humane society!

On the other hand I heard he was caught being rude to a school crossing guard, once sucker punched a cow, and a couple times tipped really poorly at Taco Bell. I mean nobody's perfect.

Fucking cow had it coming to them