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thedoper wrote:I agree Q that the biggest disappointment is the injuries. Especially knowing that 2 of these players are locked up long term. At least the new CBA is coming so their contracts wont be the end of the world.

Maybe that new CBA will also give teams an amnesty or two. Problem is that would help some of our rivals just as much as us.
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Haven't seen the game yet. Was Wiggins as bad as the boxscore indicates?
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thedoper wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Q12543 wrote:

Not a lot of good to take out of this one unfortunately. It pisses me off (I'm not sure at who - our trainers, Flip, the basketball gods?) that Martin, Pek, and Rubio are all STILL out. I mean, c'mon, what other team has their top 3 guys get hurt within a week of each other and then ALL three proceed to require multiple months to heal. Argh!



I think that's by design.

Remember, the season isn't about winning. Should those guys have been out there trying to drum up trade options? Maybe. But none will be rushed back.

And, I'm growing more pessimistic about Rubio by the day and I was already as down on his return as anybody on the board. Eventually, they're going to start asking whether it's worth it for him to come back and ease into shape for just a few weeks of ball and risk it at all?



I don't see much of a problem with him coming back. It is supposed to just be an ankle sprain. There would be no medical explanation for holding him out if it really was just a sprain. I am concerned about his long term health prospects along with Pek though. But I do believe that the bump in the cap is going to change the pain of their level of contract.



Anything that's already kept a guy out for this long (10 weeks?) has to be considered pretty serious. Wasn't it Troy Hudson who really struggled with something like this about a decade ago?

He'll probably come back. They'll ease him in. And hopefully, he'll be back at 30+ mpg the last couple of months and we get a better look at Rubio to see what exactly the team has with him. But I wouldn't be surprised if he's brought back slowly and is shut down soon after either.
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Think they're just being extra careful with Rubio since he's the MVP of this team. No point in rushing him back, but Flip does need to see what his guys look like for a couple months so he knows what his vision looks like in real life. That's why I expect Rubio and Martin back.

Not sure about Pek.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
thedoper wrote:I agree Q that the biggest disappointment is the injuries. Especially knowing that 2 of these players are locked up long term. At least the new CBA is coming so their contracts wont be the end of the world.

Maybe that new CBA will also give teams an amnesty or two. Problem is that would help some of our rivals just as much as us.


The owners will definitely whine and complain that is for sure. They will figure out some way to get some concessions on contract guarantees when the new money kicks in. They are also going to try to push for gradual upping of the cap though so maybe the new boss of the players association will play hardball. Either way it will be interesting once the teams have the extra money to spend. As long as we are under this CBA it should make it even more advantageous for us signing Wiggins though.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Haven't seen the game yet. Was Wiggins as bad as the boxscore indicates?

He just missed shots, it happens
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Good to see that this team keeps it afternoon game traditions (of sucking) alive.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Q12543 wrote:

Not a lot of good to take out of this one unfortunately. It pisses me off (I'm not sure at who - our trainers, Flip, the basketball gods?) that Martin, Pek, and Rubio are all STILL out. I mean, c'mon, what other team has their top 3 guys get hurt within a week of each other and then ALL three proceed to require multiple months to heal. Argh!



I think that's by design.

Remember, the season isn't about winning. Should those guys have been out there trying to drum up trade options? Maybe. But none will be rushed back.

And, I'm growing more pessimistic about Rubio by the day and I was already as down on his return as anybody on the board. Eventually, they're going to start asking whether it's worth it for him to come back and ease into shape for just a few weeks of ball and risk it at all?



Well, our young guys can't develop if they get hurt, and right now Flip is practically running Wiggins and Dieng into the ground, often against physically stronger opponents. It's only a matter of time before one of these guys gets legitimately injured or ends up with some nagging soreness that sidelines them. And it's almost a guarantee that Mo can't keep it up at this rate either.
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Q12543 wrote:

Well, our young guys can't develop if they get hurt, and right now Flip is practically running Wiggins and Dieng into the ground, often against physically stronger opponents. It's only a matter of time before one of these guys gets legitimately injured or ends up with some nagging soreness that sidelines them. And it's almost a guarantee that Mo can't keep it up at this rate either.


Honestly that is a good point. Some of these games like today they should have been bench after about half way through the 3rd.
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