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Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:09 am
by Monster
Camden0916 wrote:- Kevin Garnett and Tayshaun Prince choose to retire, promptly opening up two roster spots and $8M worth of cap space.

- I'd thank Damjan Rudez for always being ready to enter the game, jogging in place during timeouts, and being a consummate professional. I decline his option for the 2016-17 season saving about $1.2M. I also let Greg Smith walk.

- Assuming we don't move up in the draft and stay at No. 5, I'd draft Jakob Poeltl. I like his game on both ends of the floor. He also fits really well with Towns and Dieng. Would be happy to get him.

- I'd offer David West a two-year, $14M deal and let him and his agent mull it over. West seems to be in ring-chasing mode, but should the Spurs win it all, maybe he goes after a bigger payday. Not super likely, but I'd still make the call. The guy still has gas left in the tank. Brings us some leadership and nastiness along with his on court production.

- I'd offer Kent Bazemore four-years, $40M OR three-years, $36M; both offers have a little wiggle room monetarily. I'd be willing to pay him more annually in order to shorten the contract length and he might like that option if he feels like he'll have another payday when he's 30-years old (the "bet on himself" idea). He'd be the first wing off the bench for us. He fits with everything we have going on including every one of our other perimeter players. 3/D player with rebounding ability and above average athleticism plus scrappiness. We could certainly use all of that. I'd also give him plenty of minutes at both SG/SF to justify the money.

- I'd sign Robbie Hummel to a two-year, $1.76M deal with a team option on the second year.

- Lastly, I'd sign Ronnie Price to a one-year, $1.00M deal for point guard depth. He's nothing special, but he plays with effort, can pressure opposing PGs defensively, shoots the three at about league average efficiency this year (35.1% in 2015-16) and won't feel owed a rotation spot as he really hasn't been that type of guy in his career.

- I don't see Taylor having the balls to fire Mitchell, but you all know who I'd go after for his empty position should it need to be filled.

Additions:
Poeltl
West (maybe)
Bazemore
Hummel
Price

Subtractions:
Garnett
Prince
Rudez
Payne
Smith

Depth Chart (ideally):
PG: Rubio / Jones / Price
SG: LaVine / Bazemore
SF: Wiggins / Muhammad
PF: Dieng / West / Bjelica / Hummel / Payne
C: Towns / Poeltl / Pekovic


You have Payne as a subtraction and still on the rotation/roster. You have one open spot left!!!--or you knew the Wolves may not cut him and you had to put him in there. I like a lot of what you did here I think Price would be a really good backup PG for the reasons you mentioned he would give a compliment to Tyus as a defensive guy at the backup PG.

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:11 am
by Monster
bleedspeed177 wrote:I like the idea of taking other peoples contracts so they can chase free agent dreams. Getting picks and maybe players would be huge. Need to be ready to cut players we get though if they are bad for chemistry.


I think this could be a reasonable thing to do but the Wolves need to come away from the offseason with a could legit vets that can actually make some sort of decent contributions off the bench where that's absorbing a couple guys like the 6ers did last offseason or signing a couple cheap guys after a lot of the dust settles (it always happens no matter how much money there is).

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:14 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:- Kevin Garnett and Tayshaun Prince choose to retire, promptly opening up two roster spots and $8M worth of cap space.

- I'd thank Damjan Rudez for always being ready to enter the game, jogging in place during timeouts, and being a consummate professional. I decline his option for the 2016-17 season saving about $1.2M. I also let Greg Smith walk.

- Assuming we don't move up in the draft and stay at No. 5, I'd draft Jakob Poeltl. I like his game on both ends of the floor. He also fits really well with Towns and Dieng. Would be happy to get him.

- I'd offer David West a two-year, $14M deal and let him and his agent mull it over. West seems to be in ring-chasing mode, but should the Spurs win it all, maybe he goes after a bigger payday. Not super likely, but I'd still make the call. The guy still has gas left in the tank. Brings us some leadership and nastiness along with his on court production.

- I'd offer Kent Bazemore four-years, $40M OR three-years, $36M; both offers have a little wiggle room monetarily. I'd be willing to pay him more annually in order to shorten the contract length and he might like that option if he feels like he'll have another payday when he's 30-years old (the "bet on himself" idea). He'd be the first wing off the bench for us. He fits with everything we have going on including every one of our other perimeter players. 3/D player with rebounding ability and above average athleticism plus scrappiness. We could certainly use all of that. I'd also give him plenty of minutes at both SG/SF to justify the money.

- I'd sign Robbie Hummel to a two-year, $1.76M deal with a team option on the second year.

- Lastly, I'd sign Ronnie Price to a one-year, $1.00M deal for point guard depth. He's nothing special, but he plays with effort, can pressure opposing PGs defensively, shoots the three at about league average efficiency this year (35.1% in 2015-16) and won't feel owed a rotation spot as he really hasn't been that type of guy in his career.

- I don't see Taylor having the balls to fire Mitchell, but you all know who I'd go after for his empty position should it need to be filled.

Additions:
Poeltl
West (maybe)
Bazemore
Hummel
Price

Subtractions:
Garnett
Prince
Rudez
Payne
Smith

Depth Chart (ideally):
PG: Rubio / Jones / Price
SG: LaVine / Bazemore
SF: Wiggins / Muhammad
PF: Dieng / West / Bjelica / Hummel / Payne
C: Towns / Poeltl / Pekovic


You have Payne as a subtraction and still on the rotation/roster. You have one open spot left!!!--or you knew the Wolves may not cut him and you had to put him in there. I like a lot of what you did here I think Price would be a really good backup PG for the reasons you mentioned he would give a compliment to Tyus as a defensive guy at the backup PG.


Good catch. I initially had typed out that I'd trade him to the Clippers for a top-40 protected second round pick, but I deleted it. I guess I forgot to delete it in subtractions.

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:14 pm
by Monster
Camden0916 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:- Kevin Garnett and Tayshaun Prince choose to retire, promptly opening up two roster spots and $8M worth of cap space.

- I'd thank Damjan Rudez for always being ready to enter the game, jogging in place during timeouts, and being a consummate professional. I decline his option for the 2016-17 season saving about $1.2M. I also let Greg Smith walk.

- Assuming we don't move up in the draft and stay at No. 5, I'd draft Jakob Poeltl. I like his game on both ends of the floor. He also fits really well with Towns and Dieng. Would be happy to get him.

- I'd offer David West a two-year, $14M deal and let him and his agent mull it over. West seems to be in ring-chasing mode, but should the Spurs win it all, maybe he goes after a bigger payday. Not super likely, but I'd still make the call. The guy still has gas left in the tank. Brings us some leadership and nastiness along with his on court production.

- I'd offer Kent Bazemore four-years, $40M OR three-years, $36M; both offers have a little wiggle room monetarily. I'd be willing to pay him more annually in order to shorten the contract length and he might like that option if he feels like he'll have another payday when he's 30-years old (the "bet on himself" idea). He'd be the first wing off the bench for us. He fits with everything we have going on including every one of our other perimeter players. 3/D player with rebounding ability and above average athleticism plus scrappiness. We could certainly use all of that. I'd also give him plenty of minutes at both SG/SF to justify the money.

- I'd sign Robbie Hummel to a two-year, $1.76M deal with a team option on the second year.

- Lastly, I'd sign Ronnie Price to a one-year, $1.00M deal for point guard depth. He's nothing special, but he plays with effort, can pressure opposing PGs defensively, shoots the three at about league average efficiency this year (35.1% in 2015-16) and won't feel owed a rotation spot as he really hasn't been that type of guy in his career.

- I don't see Taylor having the balls to fire Mitchell, but you all know who I'd go after for his empty position should it need to be filled.

Additions:
Poeltl
West (maybe)
Bazemore
Hummel
Price

Subtractions:
Garnett
Prince
Rudez
Payne
Smith

Depth Chart (ideally):
PG: Rubio / Jones / Price
SG: LaVine / Bazemore
SF: Wiggins / Muhammad
PF: Dieng / West / Bjelica / Hummel / Payne
C: Towns / Poeltl / Pekovic


You have Payne as a subtraction and still on the rotation/roster. You have one open spot left!!!--or you knew the Wolves may not cut him and you had to put him in there. I like a lot of what you did here I think Price would be a really good backup PG for the reasons you mentioned he would give a compliment to Tyus as a defensive guy at the backup PG.


Good catch. I initially had typed out that I'd trade him to the Clippers for a top-40 protected second round pick, but I deleted it. I guess I forgot to delete it in subtractions.


I hope Wolfson actually has some legit info and the Clippers do have interest in Payne My guess is it won't take much to pry Payne away from the Wolves this summer. :)

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:58 pm
by bleedspeed
monsterpile wrote:Clippers do have interest in Payne My guess is it won't take much to pry Payne away from the Wolves this summer. :)


Tyus Jones and Adrian Payne for Chris Paul. Who says no?

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:18 pm
by thedoper
Max deal to Horford, role players.

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:58 pm
by KiwiMatt
My ideal offseason is very similar to Cams. I don't want to see us throw the max at anyone and think cap flexibility is the key going forward, especially with a lot of our rookie contracts coming to an end over the next few seasons.

Hire Tom Thibadeau as head coach.

Draft Buddy Hield (asuming we pick at 5 and he's available).

KG opts in but accepts limited playing role. Continues to mentor KAT.

Sign Ken Bazemore to 3 years 33 mil - 3 and D wing.

Sign Bismack Biyombo to 2 years 18 mil contract - Rebounding and shot blocking big.

Sign Robbie Hummel to 1 year 1 mil deal - Versatility.

Sign Brian Roberts to vet min - Leadership.

Trade Adrien Payne for future 2nd round pick or waive.

Rubio / Jones / Roberts
LaVine / Hields / Muhammad
Wiggins / Bazemore / Hummel
KAT / Bjelica / KG
Dieng / Biyombo / Pek

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:50 am
by kekgeek
Anyone want to just take a gentleman's bet and I week say Bazemore will get 13.75 mil plus a year on his new deal this summer

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:23 am
by TAFKASP
This teams payroll is already going to be stressed over the next three years as all four of our young core, and currently starters come up for their second contracts. For this reason I'm not interested in trading first round draft picks, especially when they're top 5. This team needs to become good at restocking solid players on cheap, rookie contracts to complement the core, not pay 2nd contract prices for players other playoff teams are letting go for just that reason.

- First round pick, take the best player available, period, end of story, and I don't care what position he plays.
- Resign Prince for a similar contract to what he had this year if he's willing.
- Make sure Garnett opts into his second year. I want that $8M to open up as they begin paying the big four, this year is too soon and they have more than enough open space anyways, and I still buy into his influence being a huge positive even if he never leaves the bench.
- No free agent is signed to a contract longer than 3 years with the 3rd being a team option.
- Gauge what the market for Bazz would be, make a deal if something worthwhile is available.
- Rudez is cheap, and a better coach would have used him more/better, I pick up his option as a 14-15th man.
- Trade Payne for that previously mentioned chicken salad sandwich and/or 2nd round pick, depending on how hungry I am.
- Talk to Pek about what it's gonna cost to send him into retirement. Is there a number he'd be willing to forgo to not have to spend 8 months a year following his old team around? There's hopefully some middle ground that saves the team enough, yet is acceptable to Pek.

This team has the luxury of looking for players 6-15, no need to break the bank for anyone. In fact doing so only makes keeping the top 5 together more difficult, so unless you're talking about a 6th man of the year type of 3&D wing don't do it.

It goes without saying rather than doing the above, if I'm actually making the decisions for Taylor I simply hire the best qualified PBO to a five year contract with the promise that Taylor will stay the hell out of the way. No matter what happened after that I would consider the offseason to have been a success!

Re: Official 2016 Offseasont Thread (Free Agents/Trades/Front Office Moves)

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:21 pm
by maelstrom11 [enjin:6599701]
How about Pau Gasol? Ricky could talk him into coming.

He's old but could make a nice 4 off the bench to play with Bazz/Tyus/and our new rookie. Belly isn't cutting it. KG at Center...