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monsterpile wrote:I personally think what Covington does best on defense is team defense. The guy is an unbelievable help defender. You mentioned his recognition I agree with that. He gets his hands on so many balls and covers up for guys. He isn't a point of attack man defender (he is good there) his real value is when he gets to play off and diagnose like you said.

Covington playing the 4 reminds me of Thad Young only Covington is like an elite version of all the stuff Young did. Putting Covington in a place we're you may be funneling guys to...OMG that sounds like fun. Getting steals ripping the ball out of people's hands like they are all Andrew Wiggins...lol. Heck he even blocks shots. Then if you switch everything your PF gets on a PG fine. Oh and he is a pine 3 point shooter than can sorta grab and go a bit. I'm not sold on it but it is intriguing. It also feels like KBD could come in and play a sorta similar role as a PF. I don't think they are gonna play him there full time but maybe starting the game and finishing he game it may make a ton of sense.

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Duke13 wrote:This is definitely the way the league is going. Covington is 6'9, granted a much different build then Pascal. I like the idea of playing Covington at the 4, most team play this way no. Starting lineups may not also look less traditional like this but a lot of minutes are spent with no big on the floor, with all wings and guards playing. To me this is utilizing Kat, putting spacing around him, for this plan to work he needs to be better defensively. I hate the theory that just because we are bad defensively we need to but another big next to Kat. Flawed thinking in my view! Nice vision Rosas!!

No doubt there are plenty of lineup shifts where 3 wings and a PG make sense. But the best teams have the versatility to go big when necessary OR they have a 4 with legit size AND small-ball skills like Draymond Green, LeBron James, Giannis, etc. Covington is none of those.

Sure but none of those teams has a TownsSure but none of those teams has a Towns. Covington is also a more volume 3 point shooter than all but LeBron. Also the guys you just mentioned are headed toward the hall of game so...yeah. Obviously we need more talent.

The people who liked the idea of Brandon Clarke next to Towns probably should be plenty intrigued by the idea of slotting Covington there instead. I'm also not convinced Rosas is absolutely planning on plugging in Covington as the 4. KBD fits there also and i'd Like to bring back Deng to play some minutes there if that's the route they want to go. He could play a role similar to what Jared Dudley did last year (playing less but be a smart vet guy) for the Nets and should be vet min cheap.

....but that's my point. KAT has yet to demonstrate he can anchor the paint defensively. If he could, by all means, start Covington at the 4.

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kekgeek1 wrote:

Hicks123 wrote:What would everyone think of offering Millsap full midlevel for 2 years. Injuries are concern, but dude is still elite when healthy. Love his fit next to Towns.

He'll get way more than that on the open market

He might. But he is 34, so I doubt anyone goes more than 2 years with him....maybe 3. But he seems like a perfect fitto go to a team like the Lakers when they miss out on their 3rd superstar.

Duke13 wrote:

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monsterpile wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

Duke13 wrote:This is definitely the way the league is going. Covington is 6'9, granted a much different build then Pascal. I like the idea of playing Covington at the 4, most team play this way no. Starting lineups may not also look less traditional like this but a lot of minutes are spent with no big on the floor, with all wings and guards playing. To me this is utilizing Kat, putting spacing around him, for this plan to work he needs to be better defensively. I hate the theory that just because we are bad defensively we need to but another big next to Kat. Flawed thinking in my view! Nice vision Rosas!!

No doubt there are plenty of lineup shifts where 3 wings and a PG make sense. But the best teams have the versatility to go big when necessary OR they have a 4 with legit size AND small-ball skills like Draymond Green, LeBron James, Giannis, etc. Covington is none of those.

Sure but none of those teams has a TownsSure but none of those teams has a Towns. Covington is also a more volume 3 point shooter than all but LeBron. Also the guys you just mentioned are headed toward the hall of game so...yeah. Obviously we need more talent.

The people who liked the idea of Brandon Clarke next to Towns probably should be plenty intrigued by the idea of slotting Covington there instead. I'm also not convinced Rosas is absolutely planning on plugging in Covington as the 4. KBD fits there also and i'd Like to bring back Deng to play some minutes there if that's the route they want to go. He could play a role similar to what Jared Dudley did last year (playing less but be a smart vet guy) for the Nets and should be vet min cheap.

....but that's my point. KAT has yet to demonstrate he can anchor the paint defensively. If he could, by all means, start Covington at the 4.

Well if you play smaller, you should in theory force other teams to play smaller also. And with Kat offensive skill set a traditional center should have a difficult time guarding him on the perimeter making team have to adjust to the matchup.

kekgeek1 wrote:I don't want Cov as our full time 4 but he did play 1214 possessions playing the 4 in his last year with the Sixers what came to 23% of his total possessions were at the 4

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Duke13 wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

Duke13 wrote:This is definitely the way the league is going. Covington is 6'9, granted a much different build then Pascal. I like the idea of playing Covington at the 4, most team play this way no. Starting lineups may not also look less traditional like this but a lot of minutes are spent with no big on the floor, with all wings and guards playing. To me this is utilizing Kat, putting spacing around him, for this plan to work he needs to be better defensively. I hate the theory that just because we are bad defensively we need to but another big next to Kat. Flawed thinking in my view! Nice vision Rosas!!

No doubt there are plenty of lineup shifts where 3 wings and a PG make sense. But the best teams have the versatility to go big when necessary OR they have a 4 with legit size AND small-ball skills like Draymond Green, LeBron James, Giannis, etc. Covington is none of those.

Sure but none of those teams has a TownsSure but none of those teams has a Towns. Covington is also a more volume 3 point shooter than all but LeBron. Also the guys you just mentioned are headed toward the hall of game so...yeah. Obviously we need more talent.

The people who liked the idea of Brandon Clarke next to Towns probably should be plenty intrigued by the idea of slotting Covington there instead. I'm also not convinced Rosas is absolutely planning on plugging in Covington as the 4. KBD fits there also and i'd Like to bring back Deng to play some minutes there if that's the route they want to go. He could play a role similar to what Jared Dudley did last year (playing less but be a smart vet guy) for the Nets and should be vet min cheap.

....but that's my point. KAT has yet to demonstrate he can anchor the paint defensively. If he could, by all means, start Covington at the 4.

Well if you play smaller, you should in theory force other teams to play smaller also. And with Kat offensive skill set a traditional center should have a difficult time guarding him on the perimeter making team have to adjust to the matchup.

But why with Covington at the 4? He doesn't have a good enough handle or dribble drive game to punish mis-matches. He's not LeBron or Giannis or Iggy - guys that can play the 4 and handle the ball to get a bigger opponent on their heels.

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Mmmm, not sure where you are getting your numbers. At the combine, Siakam beat Covington in height, wingspan, and standing reach by a couple inches and weighed 15 lbs more. The other thing about Siakam is on the offensive side he can actually exploit a mis-match where Covington is simply a stretch 3 or 4 who has a pretty limited offensive arsenal.