Would you trade Towns

[AbeVigodaLive]

Letting Jimmy Butler slip away will go down as one of the bigger mistakes this franchise has ever made.

Facetious?

"slip away"...

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

We need to hit on a guard big time. Obviously everyone on this board knows that. Wiggins just isn't that guy (although I like his improvements this year). We need a legit pg or combo guard that is a stud and a closer. I'm talking billups type. I still like the culver pick for that reason, but he hasn't panned out yet. Shoot, what would it take to get McCollum?? Covington, culver and a 1st? Do it. That's the kind of guy we need with towns. There's other more buy low guys that I'd go for too. They're wasting Covington's current value on this team right now! He's far from their biggest need.

I'm nodding in agreement with just about everything you said here, but I prefer D'Angelo Russell to C.J. McCollum for a multitude of reasons.

Yep Russell too. Either would be great and I think either Portland or golden state would be good trade partners. Russell fits the timeline and the towns angle better too.

Also, there's really not much to complain about on rosas to this point. I liked the draft picks, was good moving saric, and like all three of naz, mcglaughlin and Martin. Also really like the layman signing. My complaint will be if they haven't decided which way they're going in the next couple weeks. Covington needs to go either way, and a guard needs to come back either way... win now or lottery ticket(s)

the issue with Rosas is that I'm not sure the template he has can easily be applied to this situation, and this franchise simply isn't gonna give him credit for trying and failing. As I've said before, not just with Rosas but with any prospective GM candidate: I'm not sure he knows how hard it's really gonna be to shape this roster. I don't think anyone could reasonably expect him to land stars off the bat, but I think we expected more out of complimentary guys. Where's our Duncan Robinson? Where's our Kendrick Nunn? Too many random guys can pop out of any team and actually contribute whereas this team continues to parade otherwise useless players on the court time and time again.

As for Towns, he's a nicer Demarcus Cousins. Other than the defense, the biggest problem is that it's hard to believe anything he says and I say this because he says all the right things but can't apply them. I get that he's just one guy and he has to contend with a situation that nobody really wants a part of, but his leadership is something we all have to question, and it'll continue to be questioned as long as we keep this idea that we can't have vets here. (let's be real, when your friends wanna be teammates with you but not where you are, that can get to a player)

That's a really interesting comparison. we're the bizarro version of cousins and the Kings :( (meaning mr nice guy vs Mr I missed my meds today)

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

Lol wolves should have their next jersey gimmick say "Minnesota nice" (like Portland and Detroit etc to rip city, motor city). Then they could bring Jonny Flynn and Wes Johnson back to retire their jerseys

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

If this guys gonna come out and say he's unhappy here in year one of his 5 year deal I say send his whiny self to the g league for the rest of the year and see if he still wants a trade when training camp rolls around next year.

[TheFuture]

Name one team in contention led by a big guy right now.

Everybody in the league knows you don't win like that anymore, so you're not ever going to get equal value on Towns.

We're lucky to have the absolute perfect big for today's basketball. Shoots like a guard, post shots are a gimme, and he plays average post/rim defense in a long shot league. Our front office is just completely inept. Do you trade a 5 year contained KAT for average assets? Hell no. You mortgage absolutely everything around him.

Stop playing around and fully build a team to suit KAT. We have not done that, and it is terrifying. I don't expect us to because we're completely lost from ownership to the towel boy.

You can accumulate 20 top end draft picks and never find a KAT. Haven't we all learned that by now? Our default is to trade him for more lottery tickets?

[TheFuture]

Letting Jimmy Butler slip away will go down as one of the bigger mistakes this franchise has ever made.

Facetious?

"slip away"...

Yeah, slip away is definitely not the right phrase.

Trading for him will go down as the terrible decision. 3/5ths of the way through a rebuild around an absolute star in KAT and we go for that trade. Threw away assets for nothing.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Letting Jimmy Butler slip away will go down as one of the bigger mistakes this franchise has ever made.

Facetious?

"slip away"...

Yeah, slip away is definitely not the right phrase.

Trading for him will go down as the terrible decision. 3/5ths of the way through a rebuild around an absolute star in KAT and we go for that trade. Threw away assets for nothing.

We've all discussed the Butler trade previously. It's a mess in hindsight, along with Thibodeau. But I don't think anybody did it knowing that Butler was going to blow up the team by the beginning of season 2.

Season 1 was a "success" by Minnesota standards. Whether a short playoff run is a success for various posters depends. Personally, 13 years of abject losing... and possibly many more on the way... was not palatable for me. So I was on board when the trade happened. I hated everything that happened after that... but it was not something I would have envisioned happening. Easier to say it sucked really really bad now... knowing how it imploded then.

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

We could get more than that easily for Towns based on the Anthony Davis and Paul George trades.

Towns on a five year deal should bring back a record return really... if they decided to go that route. Id like to be a fly on the wall in rosas office just to hear all the offers.

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

Letting Jimmy Butler slip away will go down as one of the bigger mistakes this franchise has ever made.

Facetious?

"slip away"...

Yeah, slip away is definitely not the right phrase.

Trading for him will go down as the terrible decision. 3/5ths of the way through a rebuild around an absolute star in KAT and we go for that trade. Threw away assets for nothing.

We've all discussed the Butler trade previously. It's a mess in hindsight, along with Thibodeau. But I don't think anybody did it knowing that Butler was going to blow up the team by the beginning of season 2.

Season 1 was a "success" by Minnesota standards. Whether a short playoff run is a success for various posters depends. Personally, 13 years of abject losing... and possibly many more on the way... was not palatable for me. So I was on board when the trade happened. I hated everything that happened after that... but it was not something I would have envisioned happening. Easier to say it sucked really really bad now... knowing how it imploded then.

Was totally on board when it happened, but even at the time, I wanted to keep Lavine instead Wiggins

[TheFuture]

Letting Jimmy Butler slip away will go down as one of the bigger mistakes this franchise has ever made.

Facetious?

"slip away"...

Yeah, slip away is definitely not the right phrase.

Trading for him will go down as the terrible decision. 3/5ths of the way through a rebuild around an absolute star in KAT and we go for that trade. Threw away assets for nothing.

We've all discussed the Butler trade previously. It's a mess in hindsight, along with Thibodeau. But I don't think anybody did it knowing that Butler was going to blow up the team by the beginning of season 2.

Season 1 was a "success" by Minnesota standards. Whether a short playoff run is a success for various posters depends. Personally, 13 years of abject losing... and possibly many more on the way... was not palatable for me. So I was on board when the trade happened. I hated everything that happened after that... but it was not something I would have envisioned happening. Easier to say it sucked really really bad now... knowing how it imploded then.

It was extremely short-sighted. Which should have been obvious to anybody.

Our backbone was two young 22/23 year old first overall picks.

Did anyone actually believe bringing in a 29/30 year old rental star was the right move in the era of the GSW, LeBron, Houston, Toronto?

Just to watch a playoff series, really?

I don't care about the team just making the playoffs. I want the team to have a real chance of winning in them.