Re: The Last Stand (Wolves vs. The Butlers)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:43 pm
WildWolf2813 wrote:kekgeek1 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:One of KAT's worst games. As I mentioned in another post, KAT is completely out of gas mentally and physically. You can tell he has tired legs based on his perimeter shot, which is now often hitting the front of the rim. He's been doing much better lately controlling his emotions, but his familiar immaturity returned in the 4th when he picked up that technical. I understand his frustration. He was getting double and triple-teamed all night and was repteatedly getting physically assaulted possession after possession all night. He has so little talent around him and no teammates who make the game easier for him. But still no excuse for acting out and picking up that technical.
To be fair, this loss wasn't the result of that technical or KAT's game overall. It was the result of the fact that the Sixers are a better team than the Wolves - duh - even without Embiid. They are more talented (Simmons, Butler, Harris, Redick) and better coached. I was at the game with a friend from Philly. He said Bolden has been impressive since he started playing this season. Good organizations get players like Bolden in the second round. Bolden made a difference last night, but my friend said that wasn't the first time.
Saunders rode Bayless in the 4th quarter and overtime against the Warriors and it paid off, although I'd argue that we would have won in regulation if not for some of his ballhogging late in the 4th when the ball should have gone to KAT. But last night, riding Bayless again in the late 3rd quarter and entire 4th quarter was pretty dumb. Bayless was 2-11. And he provides nothing else if he's not shooting well. I don't know that we would have won the game with Tyus rather than Bayless playing in the 4th. But it couldn't have been worse and at least we would have been going with 23 year old who might be around beyond this season instead of a 33 year old who definitely won't and shouldn't. I'm a tanking supporter as you all know, but not if it means having to watch Jared Bayless dribble around and jack up bad shots.
Gorgui had another nice game as did Tolliver. Wiggins had another good game by his standards. But in typical Wiggins fashion he piled up a lot of points during a particular period of the game and then disappeared. I liked the 20 minutes we saw from KBD against last night. Okogie wasn't hitting his shots, but he got to the line 4 times and made in his 20 minutes. Again, he should have played 30 minutes. Maybe his shot would have started to fall. At least he was agressive and getting to the line. Reynolds looked pretty good. He was hitting his threes and had a nice runner going to the basket. He actually looked pretty good defensively as well.
Anyway, I'm glad the tank is back on track. :)
Thanks as always for the report. Thing that scares me is that there is a chance that we are starting 4 of our 5 starters next year in these games and I don't know how we get legit better talent to pair with KAT, outside of the #1 or #2 pick.
Im worried that Kat has finally went over the hump on getting a quick T whistle. He picked up a T quick but Im just worried that the refs are sick of his shit and if they are we are in some big trouble.
Wiggins played really good, I think we are so sick of Wiggins (including myself) that when he does play good we say stuff like good for Wiggins standards, I mean he had 24/6/5/2 on 50% shooting he was probably the biggest reason why we were in the game.
Gorgui played great again and has played damn good since he has returned to the rotation. I know you mentioned Thibs ruined Gorgui and to some extent that could be true but we have to remember he also had his best year under Thibs. I think Gorgui really misses Lavine. They had great on court chemistry. Gorgui will never live up to that contract but he can be a solid back up Big.
I think Reynolds and KDB have a shot to be good cheap role players next year what is huge based on how our cap situation looks.
Just a complete random question think on how we can get better would you guys do. Wiggins/Teague/Okogie/KDB/Saric/1st round pick (assuming not 1 or 2) for Wall and Beal. Gives the Wizards young players and gets them off Wall terrible contract. We get Beal an All NBA player and we take on the terrible Wall contract but when he plays he can be an top 10 PG in the league.
kekgeek1 wrote:lipoli390 wrote:One of KAT's worst games. As I mentioned in another post, KAT is completely out of gas mentally and physically. You can tell he has tired legs based on his perimeter shot, which is now often hitting the front of the rim. He's been doing much better lately controlling his emotions, but his familiar immaturity returned in the 4th when he picked up that technical. I understand his frustration. He was getting double and triple-teamed all night and was repteatedly getting physically assaulted possession after possession all night. He has so little talent around him and no teammates who make the game easier for him. But still no excuse for acting out and picking up that technical.
To be fair, this loss wasn't the result of that technical or KAT's game overall. It was the result of the fact that the Sixers are a better team than the Wolves - duh - even without Embiid. They are more talented (Simmons, Butler, Harris, Redick) and better coached. I was at the game with a friend from Philly. He said Bolden has been impressive since he started playing this season. Good organizations get players like Bolden in the second round. Bolden made a difference last night, but my friend said that wasn't the first time.
Saunders rode Bayless in the 4th quarter and overtime against the Warriors and it paid off, although I'd argue that we would have won in regulation if not for some of his ballhogging late in the 4th when the ball should have gone to KAT. But last night, riding Bayless again in the late 3rd quarter and entire 4th quarter was pretty dumb. Bayless was 2-11. And he provides nothing else if he's not shooting well. I don't know that we would have won the game with Tyus rather than Bayless playing in the 4th. But it couldn't have been worse and at least we would have been going with 23 year old who might be around beyond this season instead of a 33 year old who definitely won't and shouldn't. I'm a tanking supporter as you all know, but not if it means having to watch Jared Bayless dribble around and jack up bad shots.
Gorgui had another nice game as did Tolliver. Wiggins had another good game by his standards. But in typical Wiggins fashion he piled up a lot of points during a particular period of the game and then disappeared. I liked the 20 minutes we saw from KBD against last night. Okogie wasn't hitting his shots, but he got to the line 4 times and made in his 20 minutes. Again, he should have played 30 minutes. Maybe his shot would have started to fall. At least he was agressive and getting to the line. Reynolds looked pretty good. He was hitting his threes and had a nice runner going to the basket. He actually looked pretty good defensively as well.
Anyway, I'm glad the tank is back on track. :)
Thanks as always for the report. Thing that scares me is that there is a chance that we are starting 4 of our 5 starters next year in these games and I don't know how we get legit better talent to pair with KAT, outside of the #1 or #2 pick.
Im worried that Kat has finally went over the hump on getting a quick T whistle. He picked up a T quick but Im just worried that the refs are sick of his shit and if they are we are in some big trouble.
Wiggins played really good, I think we are so sick of Wiggins (including myself) that when he does play good we say stuff like good for Wiggins standards, I mean he had 24/6/5/2 on 50% shooting he was probably the biggest reason why we were in the game.
Gorgui played great again and has played damn good since he has returned to the rotation. I know you mentioned Thibs ruined Gorgui and to some extent that could be true but we have to remember he also had his best year under Thibs. I think Gorgui really misses Lavine. They had great on court chemistry. Gorgui will never live up to that contract but he can be a solid back up Big.
I think Reynolds and KDB have a shot to be good cheap role players next year what is huge based on how our cap situation looks.
Just a complete random question think on how we can get better would you guys do. Wiggins/Teague/Okogie/KDB/Saric/1st round pick (assuming not 1 or 2) for Wall and Beal. Gives the Wizards young players and gets them off Wall terrible contract. We get Beal an All NBA player and we take on the terrible Wall contract but when he plays he can be an top 10 PG in the league.
They wouldn't give us Beal for Jimmy Butler. They're not doing it for Wiggins.
I don't think there's a team left that believes in Wiggins the way Glen does.
Wiggins would be more of a salary filler. And the wolves would be taking back Walls terrible contact. I mean Wall will be making about 15 million a year more than Wiggins. Beal is also has a chance to make the super max. Do the wizards really want 80+ million tied up in both Beal and Wall. I doubt it.
They would start over with a 1st, Okogie, saric and KBD and only Wiggins on the books next year instead of the Wall and Beal making 80+ million to be a non playoff team