Camden wrote:If we only played Cleveland and Toronto, Andrew Wiggins would live up to his potential. He was great tonight. So was Towns despite playing only eight minutes in the first half.
Shoutout to Georges-Hunt for delivering when his number was called. Career high in minutes and points, but no play bigger, in my opinion, than the charge he drew on DeRozan under 2:00 to go. Those are the plays that show why Thibs trusts him.
One more shoutout -- Shabazz Muhammad. The guy just isn't cut out to be an NBA player. Even with plays run specifically for him, he's as predictable as the sun rising in the morning. He has no tangible skill and sucks at everything that mainly determines wins or losses -- defense, ball movement, and perimeter shooting. I wanted to cut my eyes out while he was on the floor.
Great win for the Wolves. Thankfully, the Raptors beat the Spurs last night too.
Don't forget Sacramento also :). But well said all around
This board was definitely having some problems. It started being an issue well before the game.
Ok to this game it was a heck of a win Butler and Crawford out Towns in foul trouble and only played 28 minutes Teague couldn't get some of his shots to fall and Lowry went off and we won. Who woulda thunk it? I was really interested to see who was gonna get on the floor for how long and who they would do. Well it turned out pretty good.
Bazz got on the floor and did his Bazz thing and played his butt off. There are probably times he could get in the game and they could try and feed him. He helped overall tonight that shouldn't be overlooked. I thought he might not even get in this game because the Raptors play a lot of smaller guards I thought he may go with Brooks. Bazz gave them something and playing him against smaller guys makes more sense.
Meanwhile MGH showed why there is no point in playing Bazz minutes over him. He is simply a better player. His defense both man and team is terrific he can actually attack off the dribble and even pass. If he has a mismatch he can exploit it going to the basket. He is out of rhythm at the FT line right now but he was really good last season at both levels there. Hell of a game for him and we needed it. MGH was an afterthought at best for most people this offseason but it's looking like a pretty solid pickup right now.
Wiggins terrific game. That last possession when they tried to trap him he did a good job dribbling out of it because he was more in the middle of the floor and had somewhere to go. He played with plenty of energy in addition to pouring in some points.
Towns had a heck of a half of basketball.
Belly was pretty good. There were a couple times he stuck with some guards and made them give it up or take a tough shot.
Dieng And Tyus did their thing. Tyus was more aggressive in this game looking for his. The Raptors foiled a couple attempts but I liked seeing it.
Thibs has to get some credit for this win not only for having these guys ready to play but what he did in game.
I'm happy for Wiggins and the Wolves definitely needed a big game from him and he delivered, but I'm not understanding why there's a tone of "I told you so" from a couple posters. These kinds of outings from Andrew aren't the norm, unfortunately. He has always had the talent and ability to be the player we saw tonight, along with the several big performances he's had against Cleveland. He's just consistently inconsistent. Need this from him moving forward.
Camden0916 wrote:I'm happy for Wiggins and the Wolves definitely needed a big game from him and he delivered, but I'm not understanding why there's a tone of "I told you so" from a couple posters. These kinds of outings from Andrew aren't the norm, unfortunately. He has always had the talent and ability to be the player we saw tonight, along with the several big performances he's had against Cleveland. He's just consistently inconsistent. Need this from him moving forward.
It's probably because the negative rhetoric has been way over the top about him. People saying he sucks, etc. He's contributed in a significant way to the improvement of the team this year. He's been totally inconsistent offensively but far from sucking. The whining about him when we are headed in the right track has gotten old.
Camden0916 wrote:I'm happy for Wiggins and the Wolves definitely needed a big game from him and he delivered, but I'm not understanding why there's a tone of "I told you so" from a couple posters. These kinds of outings from Andrew aren't the norm, unfortunately. He has always had the talent and ability to be the player we saw tonight, along with the several big performances he's had against Cleveland. He's just consistently inconsistent. Need this from him moving forward.
It's probably because the negative rhetoric has been way over the top about him. People saying he sucks, etc. He's contributed in a significant way to the improvement of the team this year. He's been totally inconsistent offensively but far from sucking. The whining about him when we are headed in the right track has gotten old.
Old indeed. I know I post less because of it. There is no element of I told you so with me. He does need to be more consistent and he has to attack more instead of settling for difficult jump shots. The Iso offense isn't tailor made for him. I think he would be incredible on a team with more pace.
Camden0916 wrote:I'm happy for Wiggins and the Wolves definitely needed a big game from him and he delivered, but I'm not understanding why there's a tone of "I told you so" from a couple posters. These kinds of outings from Andrew aren't the norm, unfortunately. He has always had the talent and ability to be the player we saw tonight, along with the several big performances he's had against Cleveland. He's just consistently inconsistent. Need this from him moving forward.
It's probably because the negative rhetoric has been way over the top about him. People saying he sucks, etc. He's contributed in a significant way to the improvement of the team this year. He's been totally inconsistent offensively but far from sucking. The whining about him when we are headed in the right track has gotten old.
Ya. And I don't think you are that bad on that front Cam. But when people were calling for Bazz to start it became super annoying.
Not trying to to speak for everyone in the pro wiggins camp but not movable contact, we will need to add 1st round picks to dump the contact. Can get super annoying after every wiggins average game. Especially when the rumors where we could have traded wiggins for kyrie or butler but people say he is not movable. He is 22 and is been a plus player by everybody favorite +/- ratings and has made winning plays and is getting noticeably better on defense.
Don't think anyone would argue he has played like a max player and we know he needs to become more consistent no doubt. But he would have gotten the max on the open market and we still would have had cap space to replace him.
It is sort of like the Thibs thing when LST asked his buddy who is close to glen taylor to fire Thibs earlier this year. All we are asking for is a little patience
- KAT had 22/8 in the second half? DAMN. A very efficient game. 6 - 7 fg. 2 - 2 3fg. 8 - 9 ft.
- Thank you Demar Derozan for not quite being a three point shooter yet. I know he's trying to get there... but there were 3 different shots he made where he was just barely on the line. If he was more familiar/comfortable with the shot he would have noticed those extra 2 inches.
- Tyus Jones is fun to watch. Teague is not at the moment... but the NBA is a long grind and Teague will be fine. He's a quality vet.
- I know very little about Delon Wright or his game. But I dug him tonight. Looks like he's gonna be a legit NBA player. That he's key rotation guy on a 55+ win team is telling, too.
- Kyle Lowry had it tonight. Damn. That hesitation move he put on MGH late in the 4th... whoa.
- Get Belly more three point looks.
- I understand there are pro-Wiggins guys and frustrated-Wiggins guys. But can we all agree that "people" wanted Bazz to start ahead of Wiggins rhetoric can be ditched? I know SOMEBODY said it... but let's keep it to them and them only. Would suck if everybody with reasoned takes backed by statistical evidence was suddenly associated with such lunacy. Shabazz Muhammad is not a viable rotation NBA player.
- KAT had 22/8 in the second half? DAMN. A very efficient game. 6 - 7 fg. 2 - 2 3fg. 8 - 9 ft.
- Thank you Demar Derozan for not quite being a three point shooter yet. I know he's trying to get there... but there were 3 different shots he made where he was just barely on the line. If he was more familiar/comfortable with the shot he would have noticed those extra 2 inches.
- Tyus Jones is fun to watch. Teague is not at the moment... but the NBA is a long grind and Teague will be fine. He's a quality vet.
- I know very little about Delon Wright or his game. But I dug him tonight. Looks like he's gonna be a legit NBA player. That he's key rotation guy on a 55+ win team is telling, too.
- Kyle Lowry had it tonight. Damn. That hesitation move he put on MGH late in the 4th... whoa.
- Get Belly more three point looks.
- I understand there are pro-Wiggins guys and frustrated-Wiggins guys. But can we all agree that "people" wanted Bazz to start ahead of Wiggins rhetoric can be ditched? I know SOMEBODY said it... but let's keep it to them and them only. Would suck if everybody with reasoned takes backed by statistical evidence was suddenly associated with such lunacy. Shabazz Muhammad is not a viable rotation NBA player.
- KAT had 22/8 in the second half? DAMN. A very efficient game. 6 - 7 fg. 2 - 2 3fg. 8 - 9 ft.
- Thank you Demar Derozan for not quite being a three point shooter yet. I know he's trying to get there... but there were 3 different shots he made where he was just barely on the line. If he was more familiar/comfortable with the shot he would have noticed those extra 2 inches.
- Tyus Jones is fun to watch. Teague is not at the moment... but the NBA is a long grind and Teague will be fine. He's a quality vet.
- I know very little about Delon Wright or his game. But I dug him tonight. Looks like he's gonna be a legit NBA player. That he's key rotation guy on a 55+ win team is telling, too.
- Kyle Lowry had it tonight. Damn. That hesitation move he put on MGH late in the 4th... whoa.
- Get Belly more three point looks.
- I understand there are pro-Wiggins guys and frustrated-Wiggins guys. But can we all agree that "people" wanted Bazz to start ahead of Wiggins rhetoric can be ditched? I know SOMEBODY said it... but let's keep it to them and them only. Would suck if everybody with reasoned takes backed by statistical evidence was suddenly associated with such lunacy. Shabazz Muhammad is not a viable rotation NBA player.
Abe I've seen some other games and Wright is a nice player. Toronto has really done a nice job with their guard depth. They traded away Joseph one of the best backup PGs in the league and had Wright and Van Vleet there behind Lowry.
