Final Pre-Deadline Trade Proposals

[Wolvesfan21]

If Rosas truly believes in this 5-out strategy with one big and four wings/guards then he needs to trade KAT. Either that or change his strategy. Dirk had Chandler. Love had Tristian Thompson (back when Tristian was good). AD has McGee and Howard and that's TODAY, not 5 or 10 years ago.

But to Khans' point, as long as they insist KAT is a Center and he plays with a wing at the 4, our defense will never be good enough to contend.

You can win with the number 1 offense and an avg defense. KAT is 24 years old. He has another 4 years before his prime to get better (28-30 are peak years). But KAT isn't going to be the teams best player if the Wolves contend for a Championship. The best player isn't on the team yet.

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

If Rosas truly believes in this 5-out strategy with one big and four wings/guards then he needs to trade KAT. Either that or change his strategy. Dirk had Chandler. Love had Tristian Thompson (back when Tristian was good). AD has McGee and Howard and that's TODAY, not 5 or 10 years ago.

But to Khans' point, as long as they insist KAT is a Center and he plays with a wing at the 4, our defense will never be good enough to contend.

Well said. It's on rosas to change the system or trade kat. The system works great when you have capella as your one big. Is rosas just going to do everything morey did or is going to adjust to his new team?

[Wolvesfan21]

What is the things holding KAT, Dieng, Naz, etc from playing the 4? I'm guessing that defensively they are poorer in space against other teams when they go small. Giving more good 3P looks and driving to the rim. But then on the flip side could have better rebounding and rim protection.

They shoot the 3 well so I'm just wondering what they are looking for in a prototypical 4? Does the guy have to be like Giannis or Simmons to be tall? Or is there a height restriction? lol

[Lipoli390]

If Rosas truly believes in this 5-out strategy with one big and four wings/guards then he needs to trade KAT. Either that or change his strategy. Dirk had Chandler. Love had Tristian Thompson (back when Tristian was good). AD has McGee and Howard and that's TODAY, not 5 or 10 years ago.

But to Khans' point, as long as they insist KAT is a Center and he plays with a wing at the 4, our defense will never be good enough to contend.

I agree, Q. I'm fully aware of KAT's defensive failings and the need for interior defense. I've repeatedly expressed the view for well over a year that the Wolves need to bring in a defensive big to play alongside KAT. KAT's versatility on the offensive end affords this team the opportunity to do that.

My point is that it's ridiculous to believe that this team can never win with KAT as its best player. He can be this team's best player, but the team needs a defensive big and another all-star player at the PG or wing positions. It's not that KAT can't be our best player. He simply can't be our Center and only true big on the floor. Importantly, our defensive big doesn't have to be a great player, much less the team's best or 2nd-best player. You gave some good examples. Chandler is a particularly good example. Dirk was the Mav's PF with Chandler at C. KAT can be this team's Dirk with a Chandler-type defender at the C position. This really isn't that complicated.

I have no idea what Rosas and Ryan are thinking. The best spin I can put on their thinking is that (1) they're simply giving the small-ball style with KAT a full season-long test before considering any changes in their approach; and (2) they're using this "test" as a way to soft-tank and maximize their draft leverage/asset for next June. I don't necessarily believe that spin, but that's the best I can come up with right now.

[thedoper]

This team can never win a title if KAT starts pouting when someone better than him threatens his position on the team. The biggest breakthrough with KAT will be when he publicly admits his deficiencies and seeks help and is ok with getting that help.

[Wolvesfan21]

Lip I agree ONLY if the others improve dramatically as well. Look at both LA teams. They each have two top 10 players and solid veterans behind them. GSW will have another stacked roster, 4 All Stars basically again (depending what happens in the offseason). Philly and Bucks are loaded.

Let's say KAT is the 15th best NBA player, let's acquire another top 20 guy somehow and then what? Our others are going to have to still be better then Beverley, Harrell, Williams and guys like that. Those teams have quality down the line. Philly does. Bucks do. All the top teams do.

To legitimately win an NBA championship you are going to need two top 10 players and a solid 3-7 to 8 deep.

The Wolves have neither the top end players or the depth players.

[Wolvesfan21]

This team can never win a title if KAT starts pouting when someone better than him threatens his position on the team. The biggest breakthrough with KAT will be when he publicly admits his deficiencies and seeks help and is ok with getting that help.

Butler blew up Chicago, here and didn't last in Philly. I would place Butler in a special class in egomaniacal nuts like Antonio Brown. Did he even go a bang KAT's girlfriend at the time? Probably. The guy is a whacko. Anyways, I see it more Jimmy being a bad teammate then everyone else being the problem. His history tells the story.

[Papalrep]

what if we got a beast defensive center, shot blocker, paint plugger, whatever. We move KAT to the 4. Would KAT not be able to play the 4 at a Tim Duncan level? I don't recall the Big Fundamental being known for defense.

Wigs for Drummond!

[kekgeek]

what if we got a beast defensive center, shot blocker, paint plugger, whatever. We move KAT to the 4. Would KAT not be able to play the 4 at a Tim Duncan level? I don't recall the Big Fundamental being known for defense.

Wigs for Drummond!

I mean Tim Duncan is a 15 time all defensive player. Also Drummond is also a average defender at best. He is an elite rebounder though.

[Coolbreeze44]

Kahns and Q make the most sense here. And I've been saying for months you can't put KAT at the 5 and just leave him there hoping to outscore teams. He either needs to play alongside a defensive force in the paint or you need to trade him and go in another direction. It's that simple. If we're committed to this current philosophy of playing only one big, KAT simply doesn't work. I don't care how talented he is on the offensive end. And his on-court demeanor and antics are a cancer on the team as well.