TeamRicky wrote:You don't trade a core asset when its value is at its lowest. You'd be trading him for pennies on the dollar now. I agree with bringing in another player who can play point, but realistically if we ever trade Ricky it should be when he's healthy and can command a decent trade return. No need to do a panic trade after all we are building for the future which will be at least a year away to give Towns/Okafor Wiggins and Lavine time to develop. Lets revisit the Rubio trade talk next year.
Absolutely agree, but like some have mentioned....IF Flip gets a great trade offer...he should entertain it, and done a nice job so far besides for the Payne deal.
TeamRicky wrote:You don't trade a core asset when its value is at its lowest. You'd be trading him for pennies on the dollar now. I agree with bringing in another player who can play point, but realistically if we ever trade Ricky it should be when he's healthy and can command a decent trade return. No need to do a panic trade after all we are building for the future which will be at least a year away to give Towns/Okafor Wiggins and Lavine time to develop. Lets revisit the Rubio trade talk next year.
What is a healthy Rubio's value? I would guess at best it is a top 8 pick.
Just imagine how much more ammo we would have in a trade up if we still had the first rounders for Young and Payne. Classic example why rebuilding teams should never trade first round picks for marginal players.
TeamRicky wrote:You don't trade a core asset when its value is at its lowest. You'd be trading him for pennies on the dollar now. I agree with bringing in another player who can play point, but realistically if we ever trade Ricky it should be when he's healthy and can command a decent trade return. No need to do a panic trade after all we are building for the future which will be at least a year away to give Towns/Okafor Wiggins and Lavine time to develop. Lets revisit the Rubio trade talk next year.
What is a healthy Rubio's value? I would guess at best it is a top 8 pick.
It was a Top 5 pick when he was full of promise and potential.
5 years later... with shooting woes confirmed... and a history of injuries... in a league where half the league has a good to very good PG already... and a 4-year $54M contract...
I don't think it's even that high.
[Note: Rubio is very good at some things. But, unfortunately, he's so bad at other stuff that's very important for the position, that it limits his ultimate ceiling.]
TRKO wrote:Just imagine how much more ammo we would have in a trade up if we still had the first rounders for Young and Payne. Classic example why rebuilding teams should never trade first round picks for marginal players.
TRKO wrote:Just imagine how much more ammo we would have in a trade up if we still had the first rounders for Young and Payne. Classic example why rebuilding teams should never trade first round picks for marginal players.
TRKO wrote:Just imagine how much more ammo we would have in a trade up if we still had the first rounders for Young and Payne. Classic example why rebuilding teams should never trade first round picks for marginal players.
Don't! Just don't!
Unfair. We were going for the playoffs last year. Couldn't you tell? ;)
TRKO wrote:Just imagine how much more ammo we would have in a trade up if we still had the first rounders for Young and Payne. Classic example why rebuilding teams should never trade first round picks for marginal players.
Don't! Just don't!
Unfair. We were going for the playoffs last year. Couldn't you tell? ;)
I know we were and then we scrapped those plays about 10 games into the season.
I am one of the biggest Rubio fans here but if you can trade him in a package of the guys named here for a top 3 pick you have to consider that.
Now let's go back to Rubio for a minute and how he may hamstring the offense. One thing Rubio has been able to do both in Europe and in the NBA is catch and shoot 3's. If this team is a contender some day even if Rubio improves Wiggins and Lavine or whoever plays the other wing will likely have the ball a lot getting their shot and Rubio floating around the perimeter may be enough for teams to worry about. He isn't like Tony Allen or back when teams (including the Wolves) dared Avery Johnson to beat them. Rubio's scoring is a problem and his injury history as well. I don't think Flip is absolutely tied to Rubio but at this point I don't think any team will give up a high enough pick/package to be worth trading him either. If the Wolves players turn out particularly Wiggins and Lavine, Rubio will fit in really well with those guys. I am not gonna discredit Ford here because I think he has a legit point but I also think that Flip has enough assets to get up in the draft to get a nice enough young prospect without giving up Rubio. It may be another interestig draft for the Wolves that's for sure.
