Pork-O-Meter

[Phenom]

I think the most alarming thing about this whole situation is that the fans would be ok just moving on from such a talented player. When he plays he is a difference maker and he isn't a jackass off the court. Why is it that when things do no fit into a neat little box, the fans want to move good players? I see a few compare our team to others in saying it cant work with him because no one else does it that way. Thats asinine on its own but what is overlooked when making comparisons is that many other teams thrive with two quality+ point guards. Why can't the Wolves have their Ricky and someone else to supplement him? Why is it all or nothing?

[Porckchop]

I'm about 85% Porkchop.. I don't deny seeing the talent there, but I've been finished for a long while saying "I'm giving Ricky one more year". Doesn't anyone notice hes almost unchanged as a player from his rookie year? Along with the injuries he just hasn't gotten better as a player . If he could be 3/4s of the player he was on opening nite I'd be thrilled. But those games are outliers. You can continue to hope in one hand and shit in the other!!
If I'm only 85% what's the other 15%. Maybe my screen name should be hotdogs or spam.

[Papalrep]

Emotionally speaking, ZERO PorkChop.

HOWEVER>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If he is our NBA answer to Mauer/Morneau, I have to go 65%

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

65% Chop. He has a big time impact on the game when he plays, but you just have no idea anymore of how often that will be. He also hasn't significantly improved from year to year like I had hoped he would. Also, he's lost a lot of the flare that he used to play with. It kinda gave him an edge that he no longer has to that degree.

[Papalrep]

CAM-- Also, he's lost a lot of the flare that he used to play with. It kinda gave him an edge that he no longer has to that degree.

I wonder why this is? Was it injuries? Was it coached out of him? Did teams just adjust to him? Agree we don't have the original Ricky. Sad.

[Porckchop]

I really want to hate Porkchop but then I realize he's a distant cousin to bacon and don't want to piss him off!

bacon gives you cancer didn't you hear?

Bacon gives you cancer, pork chops help you achieve enlightenment.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I think the most alarming thing about this whole situation is that the fans would be ok just moving on from such a talented player. When he plays he is a difference maker and he isn't a jackass off the court. Why is it that when things do no fit into a neat little box, the fans want to move good players? I see a few compare our team to others in saying it cant work with him because no one else does it that way. Thats asinine on its own but what is overlooked when making comparisons is that many other teams thrive with two quality+ point guards. Why can't the Wolves have their Ricky and someone else to supplement him? Why is it all or nothing?

He plays 30+ MPG's and makes 14 million a year. That kind of player can't come off the bench or sit on the bench in the 4th quarter when the other team can take advantage of his shortcomings. Unless you can bench him for someone on a rookie deal it would take up too many resources to keep him and find someone else to go with him. Also, if 30 teams haven't been successful playing a specific way since 2008, why are we the exception to the rule? At our best with him playing 82 games on one of the best starting 5's in the league, we were .500. We're not the exception to the rule and to think we could be is the asinine way of thinking. These teams with multiple quality PG's like the Suns don't have one of the worst shooters of all time as one of their PG's.

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

But Jason Kidd was not a good shooter and he was a 10 time NBA all star. He had 9 years with a shooting percentage below .400. If Ricky has anywhere near the career of Jason Kidd, I'm all in (100% Bacon Baby!)

[Phenom]

I think the most alarming thing about this whole situation is that the fans would be ok just moving on from such a talented player. When he plays he is a difference maker and he isn't a jackass off the court. Why is it that when things do no fit into a neat little box, the fans want to move good players? I see a few compare our team to others in saying it cant work with him because no one else does it that way. Thats asinine on its own but what is overlooked when making comparisons is that many other teams thrive with two quality+ point guards. Why can't the Wolves have their Ricky and someone else to supplement him? Why is it all or nothing?

He plays 30+ MPG's and makes 14 million a year. That kind of player can't come off the bench or sit on the bench in the 4th quarter when the other team can take advantage of his shortcomings. Unless you can bench him for someone on a rookie deal it would take up too many resources to keep him and find someone else to go with him. Also, if 30 teams haven't been successful playing a specific way since 2008, why are we the exception to the rule? At our best with him playing 82 games on one of the best starting 5's in the league, we were .500. We're not the exception to the rule and to think we could be is the asinine way of thinking. These teams with multiple quality PG's like the Suns don't have one of the worst shooters of all time as one of their PG's.

Just because no one else has had a Ricky doesn't mean we can't be successful with him. This seems lazy to me. I hope the coaching staff is more ambitious. Time for the Wolves to make their own mark. Trying to emulate teams when we don't have their personnel is an act of futility. We have been trying to be the Oklahoma City Thunder for about 5 years now.

[Porckchop]

I am like 80 perc PorkChop ..

Rubio is in his 5th year and his shooting looks to be record low despite fluke Lakers game ..

As a euro guy i remember him in Barcelona, he got like no playing time there, because against zone defenses he just cannot work at all, he is lucky that in NBA game zone is not more prevalent as most players have skills to break it ..

He is probably the worst finisher around the rim in NBA history too (at least from starters), you put a finger on him and he is capable to airball layups, also i remember how these boards wrecked Adelman for not playing him in 4th quarters despite fact that he was historically bad in them that year, if you play close games he will hurt you bigtime, you just cannot afford your opponent to be able to go under every screen and double guys at will with zero punishment, so Adelman had to go with freakin J.J. Barea to have some chance to win a game ..

on defense he is good mostly as a help defender and gambler, he leaves his guard wide open (just watch that sometimes), but as a onball defender against fast point guards he just watches jerseys from behind, he is also horrible in getting around screens ..

on top of that there are all those injuries and like zero improvement during his seasons as a wolf

Ding ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner !
Rubio supporters start every argument with ifs and buts. We like to use more tangible evidence.