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Now the talk of KG's knees being pretty much bone on bone, and I'm assuming KG had to take a physical before the trade went through, and Flip still went through with the deal, is becoming the biggest scam I've ever seen. Throwing BS statements like signing him for two more years, that he was worth a 1st round pick, and the bullshit mentoring.

Flip is either a complete idiot, or the biggest snake oil salesman out there. It was a bullshit scam to sell a few tickets, and to make sure Flip's ownership plan stays on track.

It's not just the terrible moves Flip has made, its the absolute garbage he's willing to spew from his mouth to give long suffering fans the runaround

I think Flip is looking more and more like an idiot snake oil salesman. I know things won't go perfectly, but he is always selling some BS. I still don't care about the KG trade. Young was not the future here and we obvious couldn't get anything for him. The Payne trade was horrible though. Not balancing the roster earlier in the year to keep GR3 was not smart either. I still hold hope that LaVine and Shabazz will be rotation players or better in the league.

I hope he nails is pick this offseason. I hope he doesn't make any long-term contract commitments and hires a good coach.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

TRKO wrote:Trading a first for Thad Young was a bad trade. Trading a first for Payne is an even worse trade. We have traded two first round picks, and we have no PF to show for it.

The Young for Garnett was a good one in the fact we get out of Young's 10 million dollar contract for next year. A PF that can't get 6 RPG is pretty useless.

To be fair, a PF that doesn't play for weeks at a time... and can't play more than 20 mpg when he's in the lineup is even more worthless.

While I agree that Thad Young wasn't a long-term answer, he's a legit professional player. No other PF on the opening day roster (as it stands now) fits that bill.

This board has gone "all in" with negativity on guys in the past while finding every excuse for others. It's what happens on passionate boards, I guess. But the venom for Thad Young this season became amusing. And the snuggly blanket-warming approach to other players on this 16-60 team is nearing that level, too.

So are hundreds of players over in Europe, but I don't want them on my team making 10 mil a season.

Payne is a fucking rookie. Jesus this board just attacks players when they aren't good right off the bat. He isn't the first rookie to struggle with the transition and he certainly won't be the last. He joined a completely new team with a completely new system and has been forced to learn on the fly because we don't have enough healthy bodies to even practice. Newsflash, most rookies are bad yet guys still manage to become players in this league so maybe have a little more patience with rookies. People talk about playing under Izzo for four years being a red flag that he isn't better. Guess what, Flip isn't Izzo and he isn't running Izzo's system so why should Payne just inherently know how to play in Flip's system because of his experience under Izzo. Who would have thought playing mostly rookies and second year players would result in them mostly looking bad? They don't know how to play in the NBA yet because they don't have enough experience. Maybe give them more than 1 season before throwing them in the trash.

alexftbl8181 wrote:Now the talk of KG's knees being pretty much bone on bone, and I'm assuming KG had to take a physical before the trade went through, and Flip still went through with the deal, is becoming the biggest scam I've ever seen. Throwing BS statements like signing him for two more years, that he was worth a 1st round pick, and the bullshit mentoring.

Flip is either a complete idiot, or the biggest snake oil salesman out there. It was a bullshit scam to sell a few tickets, and to make sure Flip's ownership plan stays on track.

It's not just the terrible moves Flip has made, its the absolute garbage he's willing to spew from his mouth to give long suffering fans the runaround

Yep, there's been a lot of talk about "KG's knees being pretty much bone on bone", So much talk about it that not one reputable news source has deemed it worthy of print. Alex, where do you get this stuff? Perhaps from the same source that said Flip wanted to buy the Wolves...Charlie Walters?

I'm with LST & Khans on this one. The reason people jump on Young is because this is his EIGHTH year in the league. He flat out doesn't do enough defensively or rebound well enough to start at PF in this league. Most people who point those negatives out still see him having value off the bench. It's not all negative.

All this KG crap is mostly just people making up shit to help sway their case for the trade being terrible. This is the first I've heard a single word about KG's knees being bad or anything close to it. It's pretty obvious now that they shut down Rubio that they've determined it's not worth playing certain guys when we're in the hunt for the top pick in the draft. Rubio & Pek have been battling injury, KG is 38 and there's no sense putting anymore wear on them in this situation.

Does anyone seriously think a rookie traded mid season can improve much at all when the team doesn't actually practice? Yes he's looked bad & clueless, but WTF did people expect in this situation? His "practice" is trial by fire on the floor. He's out matched just from that alone. If he's playing like this by this time next year then that's a problem. Lets at least you know.. give him time to learn the system, practice, etc (camp\pre season) before just tossing him aside.

Lavine was thrown into the start PG role, while having little to no experience playing it, which was a huge handicap in itself for a rookie and people are overly negative about him. Then with Payne's situation it's about as bad given the fact he had no time to learn the system and they can't even run 5 on 5 in practice. Early in the season people were negative about Wiggins too with all the "disappointed" comments. Too many people have too high of an expectation for rookies.

I've still yet to see Alex with a positive angled post, and this after years seeing his posts. Bone on bone? Where do you get this stuff? It's gotten so bad that you literally make stuff up now to provide further negative connotations to your posts?

Even though KG's missed so much time, the trade was still worth it. We weren't getting anything worth a lick for Thad at the trade for a guy that was about to hit FA into a sizable contract, a guy who wasn't going to re-sign here, and although he's an 'alright' player, he's more of a 7th man more than a starter, and he's in his prime so you can't expect him to break through to the next level.

With KG, at the very least, the young Wolves have someone who can provide a path for their visions to get where they want to go. Additionally, KG represents the best days of Minnesota Timberwolves basketball. After years of Kevin Love making comments left and right about bolting to a big city where he can have someone else carry him to the playoffs so he can feel vindicated, KG at the very least can let the team know that it's okay to create their legacy here in 'Sota. And it's an added bonus that he's repairing his relationship with the Wolves in the meantime...and not to mention in the few games he was with us, he was the best big we've had all season.

I've been thinking that too lately lol.. I can't remember the last time I saw a positive post from him.

TheGrey08 wrote:I've been thinking that too lately lol.. I can't remember the last time I saw a positive post from him.

He Had a post defending Lavine in the Raptors game thread. So it hasn't been too long ago. :)

monsterpile wrote:

TheGrey08 wrote:I've been thinking that too lately lol.. I can't remember the last time I saw a positive post from him.

He Had a post defending Lavine in the Raptors game thread. So it hasn't been too long ago. :)

Ah well that's good to hear. Just would be nice to see more realistic optimism from some vs the nearly always overboard criticism/negativity. I was stuck working and didn't catch the game or thread.