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I just listened to the Funkadelic and Barreiro sure made it sound like he has heard some serious buzz about LaVine something like lets just Max this guy out already. LOL

GR3 man I love that pick. Cam I watched part of the first vid and I like watching Glenn work against Shields from Nebraska thats an interesting matchup because Shields is really a SF playing PF and is a pretty good defender almost no matter who is is on. If Nebraska ever gets enough depth they can put Sheilds as a SF instead of PF that team will be even better. Anyway, thanks for posting that.

EDIT: I just read this from Zgoda lots of praise of LaVine. I wonder if Flip will consider LaVine part of the equation at PG in the regular season. If so that 15th roster spot (assuming there are no significant roster changes) needs to be a big IMO.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/266291361.html
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Camden wrote:For those that didn't like the GRIII pick, and those that just want to watch a smart player go to work, open this link and enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N1jXC0Mr5jI

Robinson was a steal in the 2nd round and I sincerely think he has starter potential.


Thanks for the video Cam....great stuff. I agree that we got a potential steal. I am actually extremely surprised that he didn't go in the late teens or early 20s. I think he was severly underrated coming out. People need to remember that he will also only be 20 when the NBA season starts...still young with a ton of potential.

Things that stand out when you watch this video:
1) The obvious - athleticism
2) Gets his baskets in a variety of ways. Solid baseline cutter, which will fit the Wolves style very well.
3) Great mechanics on his shot. Consistent form, and seems to always be on balance when he shoots.
4) Better interior game than I remember. What stood out is that he seems equally adept at shooting around the basket with either hand. Also, goes left and right very well.

I was extremely happy when he was there for us. I also wouldn't be surprised if he turns into a great bench guy, or even a starter down the road.
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LeVine was a great pick and he has all the tools to contribute right away. Flips picks are looking better and better by the day.

Exciting summer league roster, the best I'm years

Currently travelling through Vietnam so won't be able to watch any of the games.
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Hicks123 wrote:
Camden wrote:For those that didn't like the GRIII pick, and those that just want to watch a smart player go to work, open this link and enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N1jXC0Mr5jI

Robinson was a steal in the 2nd round and I sincerely think he has starter potential.


Thanks for the video Cam....great stuff. I agree that we got a potential steal. I am actually extremely surprised that he didn't go in the late teens or early 20s. I think he was severly underrated coming out. People need to remember that he will also only be 20 when the NBA season starts...still young with a ton of potential.

Things that stand out when you watch this video:
1) The obvious - athleticism
2) Gets his baskets in a variety of ways. Solid baseline cutter, which will fit the Wolves style very well.
3) Great mechanics on his shot. Consistent form, and seems to always be on balance when he shoots.
4) Better interior game than I remember. What stood out is that he seems equally adept at shooting around the basket with either hand. Also, goes left and right very well.

I was extremely happy when he was there for us. I also wouldn't be surprised if he turns into a great bench guy, or even a starter down the road.


I think GR3 has legit potential to be a starter. One thing I would like to see is him become that elusive wing that's supposed to be a very good finisher in transition. Wes and D-Will among others weren't that guy and Brewer tries but can't finish at a high percentage. Maybe GR3 has the skill to do it he has the physical ability no doubt. I love how smooth his game can be.
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Hicks123 wrote:
Camden wrote:For those that didn't like the GRIII pick, and those that just want to watch a smart player go to work, open this link and enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N1jXC0Mr5jI

Robinson was a steal in the 2nd round and I sincerely think he has starter potential.


Thanks for the video Cam....great stuff. I agree that we got a potential steal. I am actually extremely surprised that he didn't go in the late teens or early 20s. I think he was severly underrated coming out. People need to remember that he will also only be 20 when the NBA season starts...still young with a ton of potential.

Things that stand out when you watch this video:
1) The obvious - athleticism
2) Gets his baskets in a variety of ways. Solid baseline cutter, which will fit the Wolves style very well.
3) Great mechanics on his shot. Consistent form, and seems to always be on balance when he shoots.
4) Better interior game than I remember. What stood out is that he seems equally adept at shooting around the basket with either hand. Also, goes left and right very well.

I was extremely happy when he was there for us. I also wouldn't be surprised if he turns into a great bench guy, or even a starter down the road.


Well, when you compile all of the highlights of any player, they tend to look good. But when looking at GRIII's stats, it's really hard to get excited about him. Unless we somehow pull off a similar transformation of his shooting that San Antonio did with Kawhi Leonard, it's tough to see him being a regular contributor. I'm not knocking the pick at #40; I just don't expect much from him based on his track record in college. But hope springs eternal this time of year.
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Good to hear about LaVine. I also love the GRIII pick. I wanted him in the first round the year previous, had he come out.
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Q I'm biased toward GR3 and I've seen him play more than any player drafted in the past 2 years. Having said that there is nothing wrong with his shot. I've seen one jumper of his look bad coming out of his hand. The rest look very good. Keep in mind that last year he played a lot of minutes at PF heck I think one game he played some center because of injuries and foul trouble and stepped up with some big blocked shots in that game. He isn't actually super long and his block, steal and rebound numbers aren't that exciting. I think those are more of a question than his shooting. The thing is he has the mindset of a team player role player guy already and I think that can make him valuable at the next level especially with a guy like Rubio and even the bigs on this team. Sorry I keep going on and on about him I just really like his potential and a solid contributor.
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Monster, I have nothing against the guy, but it's a classic "he looks great!" argument versus a "well, what has he actually produced?" argument. There is a reason he dropped to 40. If somehow Flip and his staff can coax a decent jumper out of him, than I think that will go a long ways toward developing his overall game. But it's just tough to see that happening after two years of mediocrity. The non-scoring/shooting stats like rebounds, steals and assists translate the most reliably from college to the NBA. He did nothing at Michigan to distinguish himself in these areas.

If we need a guy that has a great team-first mindset, high b-ball IQ, and be a good role player for spot minutes, we should have just kept Robbie Hummel around.
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Q I get what you are saying. I know all the reasons he dropped in the draft I thought he would go just a little earlier than he did. Just because its fun how do you feel about the stat that GR3 hit 65% and then 56% of his 2 point shots in his first and 2nd year respectively? The guy is also just 20 that's fairly young he isn't a finished product there is some upside yet. You know I like Hummel (I cried when they released him j/k lol) but I think GR3 has more upside as that type of a role player.
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Q12543 wrote:Monster, I have nothing against the guy, but it's a classic "he looks great!" argument versus a "well, what has he actually produced?" argument. There is a reason he dropped to 40. If somehow Flip and his staff can coax a decent jumper out of him, than I think that will go a long ways toward developing his overall game. But it's just tough to see that happening after two years of mediocrity. The non-scoring/shooting stats like rebounds, steals and assists translate the most reliably from college to the NBA. He did nothing at Michigan to distinguish himself in these areas.

If we need a guy that has a great team-first mindset, high b-ball IQ, and be a good role player for spot minutes, we should have just kept Robbie Hummel around.


Robinson has a pretty strong case in both arguments. He passes the eye test as an intelligent, athletic, physical wing player. Very capable of fulfilling whatever role is asked of him, shown by his play at power forward last year at Michigan and ability to play second (or third) fiddle on a very successful team for both years he attended.

What did he produce? In two seasons, he averaged 12/5/1/1 with an efficient .525 mark from the field. Keep in mind his freshman year, he played with Burke, Hardaway, McGary and Stauskas. Only so many stats to go around. Then in his sophomore year, he plays the 4 for the majority of the season, which is clearly not what he's best suited for. Excuses or not, the guy helped his team have success.

Win Shares (2012, 2013):

- Burke: 8.7, --
- Hardaway: 4.7, --
- Robinson: 5.8, 4.2
- Stauskas: 4.7, 6.2
- LeVert: 0.5, 4.4

"If we need a guy that has a great team-first mindset, high b-ball IQ, and be a good role player for spot minutes, we should have just kept Robbie Hummel around."

Please don't advocate for Hummel over Robinson. The two aren't even comparable in that Hummel is absolutely useless when his jumper's off whereas Robinson can impact the game everywhere besides facilitating. Not to mention he's 20-years old and Hummel's already 25. C'mon, Q. You're better than that.
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