Re: Tyus Jones
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:12 pm
lipoli390 wrote:monsterpile wrote:lipoli390 wrote:Trading Teague for Schroder would save the Wolves about $3.5 million this season, but the team would be stuck with Schroder's $15.5 million contract the following year. That might be fine if Schroder's game takes a big leap, but it's definitely a financial risk for the Wolves to swap Teague for Schroder. So OKC would have to sweeten the pot to make the deal reasonable for the Wolves. So how about Teague for Schroder and OKC's 20th pick in this year's draft?
I'd do that without hesitation. Other options that might be more realistic IF OKC had any interest in this deal would be:
#21 and Schröder for Teague and #43.
The Bulls 2nd rounder in 2020.
Another 3.5 million this offseason might help you afford another player. With the extra space maybe front load a deal for Tyus.
Bleed has a valid concern about whether Schröder is a good fit here. That would have to be vetted out. Interestingly Teague and him are good friends and it would be kinda funny if they were traded for each other. Ultimately I don't think OKC would want to do the deal. Schröder is a rough approximation of what Westbrook already does. That team is already built that way why not have another guy that can do it. I don't see what teague brings other than a bit more of a PG mentality (and cap relief in a year) but with injury concerns. I think this type of deal is the type of stuff you have to be looking at though if you are Rosas and the Wolves new front office. I still think if healthy (sadly that is a question now) Teague could bounce back and offer much more value than we have seen in his 2 years here. It's a plus we know he is willing to play a lesser role if asked to do so...heck he has actually campaigned for it.
Good analysis, Monster. I don't know how realistic my suggested deal is, but as you said it's the sort of deal the Wolves should be exploring. I think OKC would like to offload the final year of Schroder's salary. I think that's worth a lot to them. I also think they'd see Teague as an upgrade this season because of his superior outside shooting compared to Schroder. But like you, I'm not totally down on keeping Teague this season either. And his trade value might be higher at the Feb. trade deadline anyway.
FWIW I remembering listening to a podcast last year where someone said they had heard OKC actually considered Schroeder a guy with positive value on his contract. If it was another quite a few other teams I wouldn't buy it but OKC seems to know what they are doing. A little over a year ago Schröder averaged 24/7 in the playoffs. Would a team like say Utah just take him on hoping he can take another step forward or at least be a guy that could be a scoring threat or would they rather go with a middling known quantity on the open market? Just something to think about.
As for Teague's shooting being an upgrade...the guy just doesn't shoot the damn ball does he? Maybe he would increase his attempts under OKC. Schoder took more last year. Lets say OKC thought a healthy Teague was an upgrade and they wanted to move along from Schroder's salary next year but wanted to save money this year. Would you take on Patrick Patterson as well to get #21 or would you need another sweetener? I think I might think about it but would need a sweetener. Ok just looked up Patterson's stats yeah I need a sweetener. Lol Again the market for somewhat competent starting level PGs will be far from the most interesting part of the offseason but it's gonna be interesting. Collision seems like a good fit for Utah but one fan suggested they just play Mitchell at PG and spend money on another wing. I haven't seen Mitchell play enough to know if that is a legitimate avenue to consider or not.
Edit: FWIW shams is reporting OKC is open to using #21 to reduce salary. It also sounds like the Wolves might be aiming higher than Schröder.