alexftbl8181 wrote:Robbie must have photos on Flip or something. What in the world is the point of having him on the team, especially making a decision this early?
Look in the mirror and ask yourself glen. Another member of the country club?
alexftbl8181 wrote:Robbie must have photos on Flip or something. What in the world is the point of having him on the team, especially making a decision this early?
Not sure you understand the process, Alex. In order to make your player a restricted free agent (giving you the right to match an offer), you need to extend a qualifying offer now.
As I recall, Bud requested a trade last season, but nothing came out of it. Assuming Bud and his agent can find a new home this off-season, Hummel is a fine replacment as a 3rd SF...
are we worried that any other team is going to offer him more then a 1 year vet min deal?
alexftbl8181 wrote:Robbie must have photos on Flip or something. What in the world is the point of having him on the team, especially making a decision this early?
Not sure you understand the process, Alex. In order to make your player a restricted free agent (giving you the right to match an offer), you need to extend a qualifying offer now.
As I recall, Bud requested a trade last season, but nothing came out of it. Assuming Bud and his agent can find a new home this off-season, Hummel is a fine replacment as a 3rd SF...
are we worried that any other team is going to offer him more then a 1 year vet min deal?
Not more, but if the Spurs or Cavs offered Hummel a 1-year deal the Wolves would not have control. Now they have control. Not sure why this bother you?
longstrangetrip wrote:I don't understand the hate for Robbie Hummel. Sure, he doesn't jump as high as Zach LaVine, but he is a very good basketball player. I enjoyed this article on canishoopus, which labeled Robbie the best 12th man in the NBA. The stats support this. He consistently is at or near the top of our +/- list, even though he typically isn't on the court with our starters. The author wonders how this can be, and attributes it to:
1) no turnovers
2) never takes a bad shot
3) never has his shot blocked
4) leads the team in charges taken
These aren't the stats that grab headlines, but they are stats that make teams better. And we get all this for less than $2 million a year, and a guy who never complains about his role. Flip was right to keep Robbie.
Read this article, and construct a rebuttal as to why Flip shouldn't have re-signed Robbie.
Except he's the 15th man on this roster as currently constructed and we have a better version of him supposedly signing in Bjelica. His spot should have gone to a guard. We have plenty of 3's and 4's on the roster. Flip can try to trade Bud and Bennett, but I just don't see teams absorbing those guys without help like picks which we shouldn't do just to get rid of their expiring contracts. Once again we are making moves that are backing us in a corner like when we had to dump guys and give up picks just to make the offer to Batum valid and then Portland matched. Robbie just doesn't fit with Bjelica in the fold. We should be giving that spot to a depth combo guard on account of only having 4 guards on the roster.
That's not exactly balanced and given Martin and Ricky's injury history it would make more sense to fill out the roster with a combo guard than a small ball 4. At the end of the day I just don't see a trade for Bennett or Bud that doesn't cost us more which is stupid to do at that point because they are expiring and should just be kept if they can't get it done on their own. Maybe they can net us a crappy combo guard to fill out the roster, but I doubt it.
longstrangetrip wrote:I don't understand the hate for Robbie Hummel. Sure, he doesn't jump as high as Zach LaVine, but he is a very good basketball player. I enjoyed this article on canishoopus, which labeled Robbie the best 12th man in the NBA. The stats support this. He consistently is at or near the top of our +/- list, even though he typically isn't on the court with our starters. The author wonders how this can be, and attributes it to:
1) no turnovers
2) never takes a bad shot
3) never has his shot blocked
4) leads the team in charges taken
These aren't the stats that grab headlines, but they are stats that make teams better. And we get all this for less than $2 million a year, and a guy who never complains about his role. Flip was right to keep Robbie.
Read this article, and construct a rebuttal as to why Flip shouldn't have re-signed Robbie.
Except he's the 15th man on this roster as currently constructed and we have a better version of him supposedly signing in Bjelica. His spot should have gone to a guard. We have plenty of 3's and 4's on the roster. Flip can try to trade Bud and Bennett, but I just don't see teams absorbing those guys without help like picks which we shouldn't do just to get rid of their expiring contracts. Once again we are making moves that are backing us in a corner like when we had to dump guys and give up picks just to make the offer to Batum valid and then Portland matched. Robbie just doesn't fit with Bjelica in the fold. We should be giving that spot to a depth combo guard on account of only having 4 guards on the roster.
Remember last year the uproar over the Wolving signing Hummel and people thought GR3 wouldn't make the roster? JJ took a buyout which saved Glen a bit of money GR3 made the cut and Hummel showed he was a worthwhile end of the bench player. Until either proves otherwise Hummel is better than both Payne and Bennett.
I speculate that there are teams out there that value Bud but I think Flip values him too and unless he gets something worthwhile back or he feels like there is a player worth opening up a roster spot for (this could happen in training camp) he will keep Bud. Flip has found nice enough landing spots when he has moved decent vets so I would think Bud is happy enough either way which may be partly why he opted in for his sure 5 million.
That's not exactly balanced and given Martin and Ricky's injury history it would make more sense to fill out the roster with a combo guard than a small ball 4. At the end of the day I just don't see a trade for Bennett or Bud that doesn't cost us more which is stupid to do at that point because they are expiring and should just be kept if they can't get it done on their own. Maybe they can net us a crappy combo guard to fill out the roster, but I doubt it.
I am confident Flip understands what he doing with the roster. If he wants Hummel, even as the 15th guy, then NOW was the time he needed to do something.
longstrangetrip wrote:I don't understand the hate for Robbie Hummel. Sure, he doesn't jump as high as Zach LaVine, but he is a very good basketball player. I enjoyed this article on canishoopus, which labeled Robbie the best 12th man in the NBA. The stats support this. He consistently is at or near the top of our +/- list, even though he typically isn't on the court with our starters. The author wonders how this can be, and attributes it to:
1) no turnovers
2) never takes a bad shot
3) never has his shot blocked
4) leads the team in charges taken
These aren't the stats that grab headlines, but they are stats that make teams better. And we get all this for less than $2 million a year, and a guy who never complains about his role. Flip was right to keep Robbie.
Read this article, and construct a rebuttal as to why Flip shouldn't have re-signed Robbie.
Except he's the 15th man on this roster as currently constructed and we have a better version of him supposedly signing in Bjelica. His spot should have gone to a guard. We have plenty of 3's and 4's on the roster. Flip can try to trade Bud and Bennett, but I just don't see teams absorbing those guys without help like picks which we shouldn't do just to get rid of their expiring contracts. Once again we are making moves that are backing us in a corner like when we had to dump guys and give up picks just to make the offer to Batum valid and then Portland matched. Robbie just doesn't fit with Bjelica in the fold. We should be giving that spot to a depth combo guard on account of only having 4 guards on the roster.
Remember last year the uproar over the Wolving signing Hummel and people thought GR3 wouldn't make the roster? JJ took a buyout which saved Glen a bit of money GR3 made the cut and Hummel showed he was a worthwhile end of the bench player. Until either proves otherwise Hummel is better than both Payne and Bennett.
I speculate that there are teams out there that value Bud but I think Flip values him too and unless he gets something worthwhile back or he feels like there is a player worth opening up a roster spot for (this could happen in training camp) he will keep Bud. Flip has found nice enough landing spots when he has moved decent vets so I would think Bud is happy enough either way which may be partly why he opted in for his sure 5 million.
We haven't received jack shit from those landing spots he's found for other guys. Troy Daniels and Gary Neal essentially for Corey and Mo. So he traded two useful players for shitty rentals that aren't even on the roster this year because he didn't have the guts to keep Corey and Mo on his losing roster while we develop the young guys. Two more players would have been nice down the stretch when we had a 7-8 man rotation and were running Wiggins and Lavine into the ground with basically 40 MPG's. Those weren't good moves and dumping Bud or Bennett for a roster spot wouldn't be a good move either, but it's now his primary avenue for opening a roster spot if we need one. Hummel is a nice piece when you have everything else figured out already. We aren't at that point so the flexibility or roster balance would have been worth more in my opinion.
