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Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:47 pm
by Porckchop
Camden0916 wrote:
thedoper wrote:Thad is useless too, our bigs are brutal right now.


Thad statistically outperformed Serge tonight. Neither were that great, but useless is a dumb word to use there, doper. He's playing without a guy that can get him the ball in position to score while playing on a tender ankle. I can't wait for Rubio to come back.


Careful using the word dumb on here Camden , some people get offended. Oh wait, that was u in the Trade Wiggins thread. Of course, ur the one to ridicule others opinions on here more than anyone so it makes sense.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:10 pm
by thedoper
Camden wrote:
thedoper wrote:Thad is useless too, our bigs are brutal right now.


Thad statistically outperformed Serge tonight. Neither were that great, but useless is a dumb word to use there, doper. He's playing without a guy that can get him the ball in position to score while playing on a tender ankle. I can't wait for Rubio to come back.


By the 3rd quarter we were out rebounded by 18. Thad has creative moves to the hoop but gives us no push on the glass. Ibaka didn't have to do anything because he could barely box out Thad and let Adams grab the boards. We have been getting killed on the boards since Pek went down and I have yet to really see any fight out there apart from Bazz. I know you love Thad but if Dieng is getting taken to school by fucking Steven Adams then Thad has to do more of the dirty work.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:24 pm
by kekgeek
A little off topic but I think the Thunder would be the team that might take a chance on Pek, he would help them out a lot IMO, so I know Pek is not holding a lot of value right now but would the Thunder think of doing a trade of Pek for Perkins and Mcgary (Not a fan but who knows).

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:43 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
kekgeek1 wrote:A little off topic but I think the Thunder would be the team that might take a chance on Pek, he would help them out a lot IMO, so I know Pek is not holding a lot of value right now but would the Thunder think of doing a trade of Pek for Perkins and Mcgary (Not a fan but who knows).


Yep, they're a team I (and many others) pegged as a potential Pek landing spot. I think we'd need a third team involved, though. Perkins + Lamb or Perkins + McGary doesn't excite me at all.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:47 pm
by kekgeek
Camden wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:A little off topic but I think the Thunder would be the team that might take a chance on Pek, he would help them out a lot IMO, so I know Pek is not holding a lot of value right now but would the Thunder think of doing a trade of Pek for Perkins and Mcgary (Not a fan but who knows).


Yep, they're a team I (and many others) pegged as a potential Pek landing spot. I think we'd need a third team involved, though. Perkins + Lamb or Perkins + McGary doesn't excite me at all.


It really dosen't get me excited at all either, but I have come to a conclusion, the team has not that high of a ceiling with him on the team. I like Pek a lot but we always say that if the wolves can stay healthy the wolves can challenge for a playoff spot, well Pek can never stay healthy and the wolves pay him 12 mil a year. It would be a salary cut with Perkins who would be the backup center this year and get Mcgary who could be a solid role player. I almost do any trade offered if Pek is the main piece in the trade. He needs to go for a rebuilding young team.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:09 am
by KiwiMatt
thedoper wrote:
Camden wrote:
thedoper wrote:Thad is useless too, our bigs are brutal right now.


Thad statistically outperformed Serge tonight. Neither were that great, but useless is a dumb word to use there, doper. He's playing without a guy that can get him the ball in position to score while playing on a tender ankle. I can't wait for Rubio to come back.


By the 3rd quarter we were out rebounded by 18. Thad has creative moves to the hoop but gives us no push on the glass. Ibaka didn't have to do anything because he could barely box out Thad and let Adams grab the boards. We have been getting killed on the boards since Pek went down and I have yet to really see any fight out there apart from Bazz. I know you love Thad but if Dieng is getting taken to school by fucking Steven Adams then Thad has to do more of the dirty work.


Dieng won't be the last player to be taken to school by 'fucking' Steven Adams.

:thumb:

One thing that was a key difference for me last night was ball screens. Perkins, Adams and Ibaka are great ball screeners. This results in a lot of open looks this creates for KD and Russ. Where as we have no real effective ball screeners and pick and roll players (healthy). Flip loves to incorporate the high pick and rolls - with Rubio and Pek it works great, but with Dieng and LeVine it's awful to watch and completely ineffective.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:55 pm
by Leado01
Regarding Zach not being Russell, there are a lot of people in OKC that would say that's a good thing. Zach isn't going to be asked to be Westbrook and as poorly as he's shooting, he's still shooting 10 percentage points better than Westbrook did his rookie season.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:19 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
I'm outraged that our 19 year old rookies aren't playing like All-Stars yet.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:14 pm
by thedoper
LloydBraun wrote:I'm outraged that our 19 year old rookies aren't playing like All-Stars yet.

Love it.

Re: Wolves v Thunder GDT

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:16 pm
by thedoper
KiwiMatt wrote:
thedoper wrote:
Camden wrote:
thedoper wrote:Thad is useless too, our bigs are brutal right now.


Thad statistically outperformed Serge tonight. Neither were that great, but useless is a dumb word to use there, doper. He's playing without a guy that can get him the ball in position to score while playing on a tender ankle. I can't wait for Rubio to come back.


By the 3rd quarter we were out rebounded by 18. Thad has creative moves to the hoop but gives us no push on the glass. Ibaka didn't have to do anything because he could barely box out Thad and let Adams grab the boards. We have been getting killed on the boards since Pek went down and I have yet to really see any fight out there apart from Bazz. I know you love Thad but if Dieng is getting taken to school by fucking Steven Adams then Thad has to do more of the dirty work.


Dieng won't be the last player to be taken to school by 'fucking' Steven Adams.

:thumb:

One thing that was a key difference for me last night was ball screens. Perkins, Adams and Ibaka are great ball screeners. This results in a lot of open looks this creates for KD and Russ. Where as we have no real effective ball screeners and pick and roll players (healthy). Flip loves to incorporate the high pick and rolls - with Rubio and Pek it works great, but with Dieng and LeVine it's awful to watch and completely ineffective.


I actually think Adams is a great team player, wish he was on the wolves. But the way he plays is a nuisance when he is an opponent. You are probably right Kiwi.